Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-20 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Don't have a catchall. That

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Blackman
On 20 Oct 2008, at 10:24, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Well looking at the original message more carefully, unless Tielman is actually the spammer himself, then there does appear to be a way of causing gmail to send messages as a third party to everyone in that third party's contact list. Indeed,

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/20 Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-20 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2008/10/20 Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well looking at the original message more carefully, unless Tielman is actually the spammer himself, then there does appear to be a way of causing gmail to send messages as a third party to everyone in that third party's contact list. I was

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Don't have a catchall. That doesn't solve the particular problem here. You lot don't see most of the spam that

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-19 Thread Oliver Gorwits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Corlett wrote: On 18 Oct 2008, at 13:56, Oliver Gorwits wrote: Except SPF is itself broken; so the problem remains. I'm sure we shall be all delighted to hear your much better suggestion which solves it. True, I should have mentioned...

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 08:11:12AM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Don't have a catchall. That doesn't solve the

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 19 Oct 2008, at 23:29, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 08:11:12AM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Don't

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-19 Thread Sue Spence
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: someone who was subscribed to the list thus goes straight through. Apparently this kind of thing can be caused by a potential XSS vulnerability in gmail so might become more common. So we just unsub everyone using

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-18 Thread Peter Corlett
On 18 Oct 2008, at 13:56, Oliver Gorwits wrote: [...] Except SPF is itself broken; so the problem remains. I'm sure we shall be all delighted to hear your much better suggestion which solves it.

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-18 Thread Oliver Gorwits
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radoslaw Zielinski wrote: Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-10-2008 19:46]: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? There is none. That's why spf and stuff have been invented. Except SPF is

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-18 Thread MacGyveR
On Saturday 18 Oct 2008, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Don't have a catchall. or use one of those slightly annoying systems that the sender is requested to visit a web form to validate

Challenge Response Annoys People (was Re: Dear friend,)

2008-10-18 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 08:16:46PM +0100, MacGyveR wrote: or use one of those slightly annoying systems that the sender is requested to visit a web form to validate themselves before the mail gets delivered to you. Ah yes those. I like those. I remember one that mailed me about a message I

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-17 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 03:07 +0800, Tielman de Villiers wrote: Dear friend, i would like to introduce a good company who trades mainly in electornic products. Now the company is under sales promotion,all the products are sold nearly at its cost They provide the best service to customers

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-17 Thread Radoslaw Zielinski
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [17-10-2008 19:46]: On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 03:07 +0800, Tielman de Villiers wrote: Dear friend, [...] Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? There is none. That's why spf and stuff have been invented

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-17 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2008/10/17 Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 03:07 +0800, Tielman de Villiers wrote: Dear friend, Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Cattle prods ? Tazers ? No, really, don't do that again. -- No train here

Dear friend,

2008-10-16 Thread Tielman de Villiers
Dear friend, i would like to introduce a good company who trades mainly in electornic products. Now the company is under sales promotion,all the products are sold nearly at its cost. They provide the best service to customers,they provide you with original products of good quality,and what