On Thu, 2012-11-01 at 01:10 +, Anthony Lucas wrote:
> But, why on earth would this go into a "standard perl distribution"? It
> doesn't sound very standard OR widely distributable.
Had the request genuinely been to get their particularly DBD into the
standard Perl distribution I'd agree but I
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From: Greg McCarroll
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:00:45
To: London.pm Perl M\[ou\]ngers
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Subject: Re: Proprietary Sybase DBI/DBD module
On 31 Oct 2012, at 20:40, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
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On 31 Oct 2012, at 20:40, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
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> On 31 Oct 2012, at 20:00, Joel Bernstein wrote:
>>
>> Not to be snarky but the answer here seems to be "yes, and what's your
>> point?"
>
> Companies that make you buy their software (limited, free,
> development version notwithstanding,
On 31 Oct 2012, at 20:00, Joel Bernstein wrote:
>
> Not to be snarky but the answer here seems to be "yes, and what's your point?"
Companies that make you buy their software (limited, free,
development version notwithstanding, limiting the *client*
systems you use out of what, fear that you mi
On 31 October 2012 20:34, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
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> On 31 Oct 2012, at 17:53, Joel Bernstein wrote:
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>> On 31 October 2012 18:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
>>> On 31 Oct 2012, at 17:33, Jason Clifford wrote:
The DBD will be normal perl however it will require a client lib which
will
On 31 Oct 2012, at 17:53, Joel Bernstein wrote:
> On 31 October 2012 18:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
>> On 31 Oct 2012, at 17:33, Jason Clifford wrote:
>>> The DBD will be normal perl however it will require a client lib which
>>> will be a binary only distribution.
>> And hilarity ensued.
>
>
On 31 October 2012 18:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2012, at 17:33, Jason Clifford wrote:
>> The DBD will be normal perl however it will require a client lib which
>> will be a binary only distribution.
> And hilarity ensued.
I don't see why, that's how all the other commercial RDBMS D
On 31 Oct 2012, at 17:33, Jason Clifford wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 17:21 +, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
>>> it seems pretty obvious to me. the sybase people have written a new driver
>>> which is being released in binary only form (hence proprietary)
>>
>> Talking with Chris last night, t
On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 17:21 +, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
> > it seems pretty obvious to me. the sybase people have written a new driver
> > which is being released in binary only form (hence proprietary)
>
> Talking with Chris last night, that may not be the case.
I also spoke with him last ni
On 30 Oct 2012, at 18:02, Uri Guttman wrote:
> On 10/30/2012 01:35 PM, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> Can you define "proprietary" please?
>>
>> It will be shipped with .so files?
>>
>> The source will be there but the license says we can't change it?
>
> it seems pretty obvious to
On 31 Oct 2012, at 14:04, Dave Cross wrote:
> Really? What about all those Android devices using SQLite for pretty much all
> their data storage?
>
> Dave...
SQLite is the most used database in the world if you count installs because so
much software that installs onto end user machines/devic
Quoting Chris Jack :
From: [attribution appears to be missing]
PostgreSQL and SQLite are both excellent open source databases that
are still actively developed.
True, but they don't even appear on the radar for market share.
Really? What about all those Android devices using SQLite for pr
From: Joel Bernstein
> Chris Jack wrote:
> > Sybase will be releasing to CPAN but they're still finishing off
> > work/testing etc.
> What's the question then?
The original question was how to get it into standard distributions. Dave Cross
answered this. When I asked at the SAP/Sybase conf
On 10/30/2012 01:35 PM, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
Chris,
Can you define "proprietary" please?
It will be shipped with .so files?
The source will be there but the license says we can't change it?
it seems pretty obvious to me. the sybase people have written a new
driver which is being released
Chris,
Can you define "proprietary" please?
It will be shipped with .so files?
The source will be there but the license says we can't change it?
Anything else?
Dave
On 30 Oct 2012, at 16:32, Chris Jack wrote:
[...]
> IMHO mysql got itself scr"wed for all time when it was acquired by Oracle.
> How better to control what features get added to a low end competitor. At the
> same time, you're dissuading development on other open source databases by
> having som
On 30 October 2012 17:32, Chris Jack wrote:
[ oh god, my eyes. please fix your mailer / quoting / attribution.
please. please. i'm begging. ]
>> There are, however, a couple of alternatives that you can consider.
>> Firstly, for a module to be considered "real" to most Perl
>> programmers, it ne
From: Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk
> Well, there's only one standard Perl distribution[1]. And that doesn't
> include any DBD modules. It doesn't even include DBI.
>
> There are a number of distributions that include modules beyond the
> standard set. Offhand I can think of ActivePerl[2], Stra
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 14:07 +, Chris Jack wrote:
> I'm just back from speaking at the Las Vegas SAP/Sybase conference (on a
> somewhat Perl related topic too!). One of the (other) interesting talks was
> about a new proprietary Sybase ASE DBI/DBD module for Perl (to be called
> DBD::SybaseAS
Quoting Chris Jack :
I'm just back from speaking at the Las Vegas SAP/Sybase conference
(on a somewhat Perl related topic too!). One of the (other)
interesting talks was about a new proprietary Sybase ASE DBI/DBD
module for Perl (to be called DBD::SybaseASE from memory). They were
a littl
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