RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-27 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi Wendy, It sounds like you're turning this into a good new story. Stop it immediately. We only go in for bad news stories at the moment. Only joking. It all seems under control. Duncan -Original Message- From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org]

Re: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-27 Thread Mark Keating
On 26/01/2013 12:41, Salve J Nilsen wrote: Duncan Garland said: Isn't this something TPF should get behind? Please, when asking about wether @organization can do something, be so kind to consider @organization == @people_who_already_volunteer_a_lot; # (apologies for the bad code) If

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi, Isn't this something TPF should get behind? The Perl Community organises good conferences but they tend to be for quite small audiences. I've been told that YAPC Tokyo is the biggest with roughly 800 attendees and the next biggest ones are grouped around the 300 mark. Fosdem claims to

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Wendy G.A. van Dijk
Hi Duncan, Thank you for this plea for assistance. Much appreciated! The last several years, we, a small group of people who have been (co-)organizers of YAPC::Europe, Perl Workshops, hackathons and Perl Monger meetings, have set up a Fosdem presence. If I recall correctly, after some

Re: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Leo Lapworth
Hi Duncan, Please contact the TPF and let them know how many hours a week you are able to commit to helping co-ordinate this sort of thing. Leo On 26 Jan 2013, at 11:25, Duncan Garland duncan.garl...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hi, Isn't this something TPF should get behind? The Perl Community

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Wendy G.A. van Dijk
And the reason why we are not mentioned yet on the page of Fosdem is because our dev-room is only semi-official yet. Fosdem decided not to give us a dev-room, and give our regular dev-room to a friendly/competing programming language. Another friendly/competing programming language could not

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Wendy G.A. van Dijk
And the reason why we are not mentioned yet on the page of Fosdem is because our dev-room is only semi-official yet. Fosdem decided not to give us a dev-room, and give our regular dev-room to a friendly/competing programming language. Another friendly/competing programming language could not

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Duncan Garland said: Isn't this something TPF should get behind? Please, when asking about wether @organization can do something, be so kind to consider @organization == @people_who_already_volunteer_a_lot; # (apologies for the bad code) If you appreciate having a lively community of

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi Leo, I ran a workshop at this year's LPW. I got the company I work for to sponsor LPW. All the sponsorship money went to LPW, I paid my own expenses. I'll know next week whether I've succeeded in getting some sponsorship for the QA Hackathon. I've been to 6 of the 9 LPWs. The last 5 plus

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Duncan Garland
And I put a lot of effort at very short notice into an article for this year's Catalyst Advent Calendar. -Original Message- From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org] On Behalf Of Leo Lapworth Sent: 26 January 2013 12:06 To: London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers

Re: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Greg McCarroll
Before this blows up, can i just say that Leo is a good guy and your work speaks for itself Duncan, and sometimes we can all fire off a quick email a little too rashly as we get used to trolls and other internet mailing list beasties. G. p.s. now who wants to buy me first class eurostar

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Wendy G.A. van Dijk
Hi Duncan, I salute you for this! Well done, thank you for your support. And I realise your question about Fosdem was a genuine question. The answer I gave was not the right one. I think the only right answer is: The Perl community itself is the only right organisation to organise events like

Re: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Leo Lapworth
Hi Duncan, Sorry that was not meant to be patronising - so many people say TPF should do X,Y,Z - but miss that the TPF/Perl community needs people to get on and do it. As Wendy has mentioned this has come up many times. I did not mean to criticise you personally, just pointing out that if you or

Re: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Greg McCarroll
Maybe what we need is a match.com of sorts for the Perl community. Who has time/skills/resources and who in the Perl community/TPF knows that something needs done. I'll pick on Jess (castaway) as an example . 1 hour a week proof reading. That would get snapped up every week. And the

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi Leo, No worries. I've seen your presentations on Puppet, DBIx::Class and Plack and always enjoyed them. I know you headed up London PM in 2011 as well. That was a good effort. Duncan -Original Message- From: london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org [mailto:london.pm-boun...@london.pm.org]

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi Wendy, TPF posted a couple of days ago that it has £100,000 (or dollars or whatever) to distribute, so resources isn't the problem. A couple of days ago Perl's official presence at Fosdem was minimal. I assume you didn't try very hard to get sponsorship because there was very little to

RE: We get a dev-room at Fosdem after all. Emergency Call for Papers!

2013-01-26 Thread Wendy G.A. van Dijk
Hai Duncan, At 06:44 PM 1/26/2013, Duncan Garland wrote: TPF posted a couple of days ago that it has £100,000 (or dollars or whatever) to distribute, so resources isn't the problem. Money is not the issue. If it were, I know enough people at TPF, YEF and elsewhere to ask for it. A couple