Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Sue Spence
On 26 April 2011 13:24, Simon Cozens si...@simon-cozens.org wrote: On 23/04/2011 13:46, Sue Spence wrote: Beyond installing my own Perl Do this.  Best to ignore the system Perl IMO. I don't get it. I've never used anything other than system Perl all the time I've been using OS X, and I

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Richard Foley
This sounds similar to the response I got when reporting a number of bugs in released software at a company which shall remain nameless. The suggested fix was for me to: change your operating system... There's really no (polite) answer to that. Ciao Richard -- Richard Foley Ciao -

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:43:36AM +0200, Richard Foley wrote: This sounds similar to the response I got when reporting a number of bugs in released software at a company which shall remain nameless. The suggested fix was for me to: change your operating system... There's

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-27 Thread Richard Foley
a. No, they were paying me to develop a test suite... b. Because I wouldn't want to be sued by ... oh, that was close ;-) b.b. Probably spent too long south of the border. c. I agree, but this is the usual case of them developing for windoze and exploder and not giving a flying f*** about the

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-26 Thread Simon Cozens
On 23/04/2011 13:46, Sue Spence wrote: Beyond installing my own Perl Do this. Best to ignore the system Perl IMO. I don't get it. I've never used anything other than system Perl all the time I've been using OS X, and I don't recall any problems. (Of course, that may be the RDF talking.) In

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-26 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 07:50:14PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 02:10:57AM +0100, me said: That said - it's still highly ... let's call it suboptimal that if you install the latest versions of the tools you can't install XS modules on OSX. FWIW I wrote something

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
Nicholas Clark wrote: Would they care more if they got lots of polite bug reports from registered developers who care about Apple's SNAFU, encouraging Apple to re-instate the PPC assembler for XCode 4? Is XCode 4*supposed* to support the PPC-enabled OS X versions? Or is it Lion only? It's

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-25 Thread Simon Wistow
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 02:10:57AM +0100, me said: That said - it's still highly ... let's call it suboptimal that if you install the latest versions of the tools you can't install XS modules on OSX. FWIW I wrote something up here http://deflatermouse.livejournal.com/149721.html so that

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-23 Thread Piers Cawley
I'm using XCode 4 and things are fine. But I'm running the developer preview of Lion which is entirely ppc free. On Saturday, April 23, 2011, Jesse Vincent je...@fsck.com wrote: Ah. So _this_ is what fucked jwz. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Simon

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-23 Thread Mark Fowler
On Friday, April 22, 2011, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote: Which would be fine. Except that the system Perl is built *with* arch ppc. Why are you installing modules in the system Pel anyway? - Apple will screw you if you do this. An update in a system update will kill your code at

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-23 Thread Peter Corlett
On 22 Apr 2011, at 22:20, Simon Wistow wrote: Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil you have to buy

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-23 Thread Sue Spence
On 22 April 2011 22:20, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote: Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil you

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-23 Thread Piers Cawley
On Saturday, April 23, 2011, Sue Spence s...@pennine.com wrote: On 22 April 2011 22:20, Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote: Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death with nuns

Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Simon Wistow
Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil you have to buy Xcode. True it's only $4 but it's still a giant fuck

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Mike Stok
On 2011-04-22, at 5:20 PM, Simon Wistow wrote: Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil you have to buy

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:20:13PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for fun, isn't sufficiently evil you

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Simon Wistow
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:43:23PM +0100, Dave Cantrell said: Paying for compilers is so 1980s. Please at least tell me that they ship an XCode DVD along with the OS. I did actually find the previous version on one of the DVDs, and as Mike points out it's actually findable on the Apple site.

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Jesse Vincent
Ah. So _this_ is what fucked jwz. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org wrote: Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping puppies