Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 18 Feb 2010, at 08:22, James Laver wrote: I'll have all those pythoners learning Perl before you know it ;) Stock up on diacritics. You'll need them. I like diacritics. It makes reading (even more) interesting. -- Luis Motta Campos is a DBA, Perl Programmer, foodie and photographer.
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
On 18 Mar 2010, at 16:41, Luis Motta Campos wrote: Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 18 Feb 2010, at 08:22, James Laver wrote: I'll have all those pythoners learning Perl before you know it ;) Stock up on diacritics. You'll need them. I like diacritics. It makes reading (even more) interesting. Mañana. Anyone know how to get a horizontal overbar or a cup-shape accent on the Mac? Typing pinyin without them is an arse. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://www.davehodgkinson.com/blog Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
On 18 March 2010 10:06, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 Mar 2010, at 16:41, Luis Motta Campos wrote: Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 18 Feb 2010, at 08:22, James Laver wrote: I'll have all those pythoners learning Perl before you know it ;) Stock up on diacritics. You'll need them. I like diacritics. It makes reading (even more) interesting. Mañana. Anyone know how to get a horizontal overbar or a cup-shape accent on the Mac? Typing pinyin without them is an arse. I believe both of these are in the US Extended keyboard layout. So add one of those. Vowel-plus-macron (first tone) is then option-a+vowel, and Vowel-plus-caron (third tone) is option-v+vowel. A better solution than switching keymap may exist but I'm not familiar. /joel
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 02:56:09PM +, Anthony Fisher wrote: Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com wrote: for cross-disciple presentations. Personally, I think it's better to keep religion separate. Last year, the French Perl, Python and Ruby communities organized their first OSDC.fr, as a way to mix communities and ideas. We had talks about Perl, Python, Ruby, Java, Smalltalk, JavaScript, MySQL, testing, etc. Apart from a Java whiner who complained afterward about people saying bad things about his favorite language[*], everyone seemed very happy with it. We plan to have one again in 2010. The three communities have their own separate events, so everyone's free to decide if they like their religions separate or in an ecumenical mix. Or both. [*] I looked a bit at his blog and online history, and the whining seemed to be part of his personality. During the event, everyone tried to avoid gratuitous language bashing as much as possible. -- Philippe Bruhat (BooK) When you double-cross a friend, you triple-cross yourself. (Moral from Groo The Wanderer #8 (Epic))
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
Philippe Bruhat (BooK) philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 02:56:09PM +, Anthony Fisher wrote: Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com wrote: for cross-disciple presentations. Personally, I think it's better to keep religion separate. [snip] The three communities have their own separate events, so everyone's free to decide if they like their religions separate or in an ecumenical mix. Or both. For the avoidance of doubt, please note that my comment was just a lame joke on Ovid's typo (cross-disciple == Xtian - geddit?). Anthony -- To contact me directly please apply s/lists/aef/ to my address.
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
Itym, he's going to Not London. On 17 Feb 2010 00:00, Avleen Vig avl...@gmail.com wrote: Duh, he already said: He's not going to London. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Guido Barosio gbaro...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you moving?...
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
--- On Mon, 15/2/10, James Laver james.la...@gmail.com wrote: From: James Laver james.la...@gmail.com As I shall shortly be leaving london for somewhere with no PM group, I thought it might be nice to create one. How do I go about it? I rebuilt portland.pm from scratch. We had a group, but they hadn't met in over a year and when I took over, I made a few mistakes. However, it's now one of the strongest, most active groups in the world. Here's what I and my successors did: 1. Never miss holding a meeting. Ever. If you don't have a technical, have a social. We had technicals followed by socials. 2. Try to arrange to have chromatic, Allison Randal, Schwern, Ingy, Randal Schwartz, Tom Phoenix, Ward Cunningham, and Jeff Zucker move to your city. It makes for fantastic presentations. 3. If the above people live in your city, encourage them to leave. Other people wind up being too intimidated to give presentations. That's a hell of an audience if you're showing off your thalidomide-baby Perl. Fortunately, they were also a very respectful audience. 4. If the above people live in your city, encourage one of them to not show up falling down drunk at a technical meeting. The comedic value is astonishingly short-lived. [1] 5. Coordinate with other user groups in the area for cross-disciple presentations. Don't get into language wars with them. Respect means a lot. 42. Always know where your towel is. Towel is a euphemism for projector. Crowding around someone's laptop makes for a lousy presentation. Make sure this towel works with your laptop. 6. Always have a back up presenter. Randal was great for this and he saved my @$$ more than once. 7. Always have a back up *presentation*. Staying up late the night before to write one because your presenter dropped out is no fun. 8. If there are local companies which use Perl, see if they'll donate meeting space. If they do, they'll often have towels. 9. Try to get the presentation sent to you beforehand and make sure you can display it on your laptop in case your towel doesn't plug into their laptop. 10. Make sure that some presentations appeal to newer programmers. This was one of our biggest weaknesses at portland.pm (I don't know about now). 11. Try to make sure your group leader is named Joshua. It helps, really. 12. Open up every meeting with an amusing video. People really like this. Cheers, Ovid [1]. Don't email me offlist and ask who this is. I'm not telling. Period. -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog- http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
Ovid publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com wrote: for cross-disciple presentations. Personally, I think it's better to keep religion separate. Anthony
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
My question is Where are you moving? because maybe some of us are already near the place he is moving OR because we may know someone near the place he is moving. Are you guys only perl mongers at London? I am from Buenos Aires, Argentina, but I am writing this mail from San Francisco, California. I lived 3 years in Camberley, Surrey, and a few others in London. I have perl friends or contacts almost everywhere. Networking? Best, GB.- On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Avleen Vig avl...@gmail.com wrote: Duh, he already said: He's not going to London. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Guido Barosio gbaro...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you moving? gb.- On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Matt Sergeant mserge...@messagelabs.comwrote: James Laver wrote: As I shall shortly be leaving london for somewhere with no PM group, I thought it might be nice to create one. How do I go about it? http://www.pm.org/start/index.html __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email__
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:26:53AM -0800, Guido Barosio wrote: My question is Where are you moving? because maybe some of us are already near the place he is moving OR because we may know someone near the place he is moving. Are you guys only perl mongers at London? I am from Buenos Aires, Argentina, but I am writing this mail from San Francisco, California. I lived 3 years in Camberley, Surrey, and a few others in London. I have perl friends or contacts almost everywhere. Networking? Best, GB.- Helsinki, Finland. I'll have all those pythoners learning Perl before you know it ;) --James
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yay :) http://www.pm.org/groups/129.html gb.- On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:22 PM, James Laver london...@jameslaver.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:26:53AM -0800, Guido Barosio wrote: My question is Where are you moving? because maybe some of us are already near the place he is moving OR because we may know someone near the place he is moving. Are you guys only perl mongers at London? I am from Buenos Aires, Argentina, but I am writing this mail from San Francisco, California. I lived 3 years in Camberley, Surrey, and a few others in London. I have perl friends or contacts almost everywhere. Networking? Best, GB.- Helsinki, Finland. I'll have all those pythoners learning Perl before you know it ;) --James
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
On 02/18/2010 12:37 AM, Guido Barosio wrote: yay :) http://www.pm.org/groups/129.html They seem rather quiet though: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/helsinki-pm/ http://helsinki.pm.org/ Dave...
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
On 18 Feb 2010, at 08:22, James Laver wrote: I'll have all those pythoners learning Perl before you know it ;) Stock up on diacritics. You'll need them. -- Dave HodgkinsonMSN: daveh...@hotmail.com Site: http://www.davehodgkinson.com UK: +44 7768 490620 Blog: http://www.davehodgkinson.com/blog Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehodg
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:25 +, James Laver wrote: As I shall shortly be leaving london for somewhere with no PM group, I thought it might be nice to create one. How do I go about it? http://www.pm.org/start/ would seem like the obvious place to um, start. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
James Laver wrote: As I shall shortly be leaving london for somewhere with no PM group, I thought it might be nice to create one. How do I go about it? http://www.pm.org/start/index.html __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
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Where are you moving? gb.- On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Matt Sergeant mserge...@messagelabs.comwrote: James Laver wrote: As I shall shortly be leaving london for somewhere with no PM group, I thought it might be nice to create one. How do I go about it? http://www.pm.org/start/index.html __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email__
Re: Founding a Perlmongers group
Duh, he already said: He's not going to London. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Guido Barosio gbaro...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you moving? gb.- On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Matt Sergeant mserge...@messagelabs.comwrote: James Laver wrote: As I shall shortly be leaving london for somewhere with no PM group, I thought it might be nice to create one. How do I go about it? http://www.pm.org/start/index.html __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email__
