Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread tony . li
Hi Bruno, > “A Level 2 LSP that contains the Area Proxy TLV MUST NOT be flooded to an > Outside Router. » > Agreed (so far) > > “A Level 2 LSP with a source system identifier that is found in the Level 1 > LSDB MUST NOT be flooded to an Outside Router.” > I’m not sure to agree. > If that

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread tony . li
Hi Bruno, Thank you for your comments. > 1) > OLD: The >advertisement in the Proxy LSP informs the remainder of the network >that packets directed to the SID will be forwarded by one of the >Inside Edge Nodes and the Area SID will be consumed. > > NEW: > The >advertisement in

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread Gyan Mishra
Agreed that Rift negative disaggregation and PUA proposed are in no way comparable. Sorry to make that analogy but unfortunately it was the first thing that came to mind when reading the draft. I was I will work with Aijun to help fill the gaps & points noted in this thread without adding

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member…. This is in no way comparable. This solution presented in the draft is full of holes and non-backward compatible. The problem may be solvable but the question is whether or not the required complexity is worse than a problem that could be solved with proper network

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
In support of what Tony has said, I think any comparison between what RIFT is doing and what is proposed in this draft is inappropriate. RIFT is able to determine what destinations exist in the network but are not reachable via a certain subset of the topology – and then generate negative

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread Tony Przygienda
I read the draft since the longish thread triggered my interest. As Peter said very thin ice walking with magic soft-state-timers for (to me) entirely unclear benefit and lots of interesting questions completely omitted like e.g. what will happen if a mix of old and new routers are in the network.

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread bruno.decraene
Hi Tony, I may have a comment on 5.2. Filtering LSP information. This is old text, but new re-reading. "A Level 2 LSP that contains the Area Proxy TLV MUST NOT be flooded to an Outside Router. > Agreed (so far) "A Level 2 LSP with a source system identifier that is found in the Level 1 LSDB

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread bruno.decraene
Hi Tony, Please find below some nits/minor comments. Please feel free to silently discard. 1) OLD: The advertisement in the Proxy LSP informs the remainder of the network that packets directed to the SID will be forwarded by one of the Inside Edge Nodes and the Area SID will be

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread bruno.decraene
Hi Tony, I've read the diff for -03 and -04. The new encoding of the Area SID is good for me. And thank you for listening to my use case and suggestion. Thanks, --Bruno From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tony...@tony.li Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 7:02 PM To: lsr@ietf.org

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-03.txt

2020-09-04 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi Aijun Sure I would be interested in joining as co-author of the draft. This an interesting topic as how PUA or negative disaggretion can prevent black hole routing of summaries when “Longest prefix match” does not exist due to link or router down event, and how to signal via negative