Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi Aijun, I am not particularly sold on the argument that the configuration requirements of RFC 5316/RFC 5392 are especially burdensome. A PCE relies on the TEDB which comprises nodes & links, and it makes sense to have an inter-AS link represented as a "Link". Moreover, these links are TE-enable

Re: [Lsr] PCE Controller & SDN Controller & Netconf/Yang NMS Controller - lines blurred and can the names be used ubiquitously meaning the same

2020-10-12 Thread Gyan Mishra
All Another way of looking at BGP-LS is that it is an extremely powerful tool for centralized controller based architectures or hybrid architectures, and it does not bog down or impact the agility and lightweight aspects of BGP, as BGP has its overall ability to stack & pile on SAFI's and codepoin

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Gyan Mishra
Hi Jeff Thanks for the detailed analysis and explanation comparison of SR & IP Flex Algo. Please see in-line Me like Flex Algo covered in Chocolate. šŸ˜‚ On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 5:06 PM Jeff Tantsura wrote: > Gyan, > > In simple terms - destination lookup would yield a SID (stack) for SR or > ne

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Dhruv: Please see my explain to Jeff. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/VLufuaGDiRgaflcu58FY_SHnJ7A/ The solutions described in RFC 5316 and RFC 5392 are possible and straightforward, but they have some constraints, especially for the operation/configuration of the network. Best

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Jeff: Using the solution that similar with Inter-AS-TE-v2 LSA(https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5392#section-3.1.1) is straightforward but has the following constraints: 1. It requires the configuration of the remote-as/remote ASBR ID on border router, and requires the advertisement of

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Iā€™m with Acee here, the presence of a passive interface in a topology is in no way unambiguously signaling domain boundaries. You could ā€œhack aroundā€ though, but that would defeat the purpose of an IETF document. Keeping it to OSPFv2 (other protocols have similar ways of doing that), Iā€™d say, us

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking WG member: Hi Gyan, Aijun, Even if I agreed with your use case assuming a passive interface denotes the boundary between two domains as shown in figure 1 in your draft (which I donā€™t), you still should not be trying to hack the prefixes with what is inherently link attribute. Can I st

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 12/10/2020 13:50, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hey Peter, To me the application here is "avoid red links" regardless of choice of encap in the data plane. Does it really makeĀ sense to separate advertisements of SR flex-algo vs IP flex-algo into separateĀ TLVs ? yes, please look at the b

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hey Peter, To me the application here is "avoid red links" regardless of choice of encap in the data plane. Does it really make sense to separate advertisements of SR flex-algo vs IP flex-algo into separate TLVs ? Along the same linkes even for SR data plane can be SR-MPLS or SRv6. So in the net

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Jimmy. On 12/10/2020 09:12, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: Hi Jeff, Thanks for your explanation. I understand that for different data plane the SIDs or IP addresses have different scope, and will not conflict in normal cases. My question is more about whether a computation node needs to know and

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Peter Psenak
Ho Ron, On 10/10/2020 14:47, Ron Bonica wrote: Hi Jimmie, Inline. Ron Juniper Business Use Only -Original Message- From: Dongjie (Jimmy) Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 11:06 PM To: Peter Psenak ; Ron Bonica ; Yingzhen Qu ; Gyan Mishra Cc: lsr@ietf.org; Jef

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi Jimmy, On 10/10/2020 05:05, Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for your reply. It aligns with my understanding of FAD, which is just a set of constraints for path computation. Thus one Flex-Algo ID could be used with multiple different data planes. Is this understanding correct? cor

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute-04.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Dhruv Dhody
Hi Gyan, As far as PCE is concerned, we have the inter-AS link information via RFC 5316 and RFC 5392. Both of these include a section on PCE's BRPC procedure for instance. I see you have other use cases, but it would be good to highlight why for the PCE use case the above is deficient. Thanks! D

Re: [Lsr] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00.txt

2020-10-12 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Hi Jeff, Thanks for your explanation. I understand that for different data plane the SIDs or IP addresses have different scope, and will not conflict in normal cases. My question is more about whether a computation node needs to know and check which data plane is used by the intermediate nodes