of ISIS.
Best Regards,
Robin
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Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 6:40 AM
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or from external sources, the
>>>>exact mechanism is beyond the scope of this document.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To me it seems a common LSDB shared among network slices VTN
>>>&
gt; >
>>>> > Kind Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > Gyan
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 10:28 AM Peter Psenak >>> > <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Yali,
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e:
>>> > > Hi Peter,
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks for your question. Please see inline [yali3].
>>> > >
>>> > > -Original Message-
>>> > > From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@
gt; >
>>> > > Thanks for your question. Please see inline [yali3].
>>> > >
>>> > > -Original Message-
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>>> > <mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>
<mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>]
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:20 PM
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; Tony Li ; lsr ;
Tianran Zhou ; wangyali
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi Peter
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 10:56 AM Peter Psenak
mailto:ppse...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Gyan,
On 05/03/2021 16:46, Gyan Mishra wrote:
> Yali
>
> I agr
aszuk > <mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>>
> > > Cc: Huzhibo mailto:huzh...@huawei.com>>;
> > Aijun Wang > <mailto:wang...@chinatelecom.cn>>; Tony Li > <mailto:tony...@tony.li>>; lsr mailto:lsr@ietf.org>
gt;; lsr mailto:lsr@ietf.org>>;
Tianran Zhou mailto:zhoutian...@huawei.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for
draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
>
> Hi Yali,
>
> On 04/03/2021 14:45, wangyali wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 11:20 PM
> > To: wangyali ; Gyan Mishra ;
> Robert Raszuk
> > Cc: Huzhibo ; Aijun Wang ;
> Tony Li ; lsr ; Tianran Zhou <
> zhoutian...@huawei.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version
; Tony Li
; lsr ; Tianran Zhou
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi Yali,
On 04/03/2021 14:45, wangyali wrote:
Hi Peter,
Please see inline [Yali2]. Thanks a lot.
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Sent: Thursday
h 4, 2021 11:20 PM
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> Robert Raszuk
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> Tony Li ; lsr ; Tianran Zhou <
> zhoutian...@huawei.com>
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for
> draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
>
> Hi Yali,
>
> On 04/03/202
] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi Yali,
On 04/03/2021 14:45, wangyali wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Please see inline [Yali2]. Thanks a lot.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com]
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi Yali,
On 04/03/2021 11:42, wangyali wrote:
Hi Peter,
Please review follows tagged by [Yali].
-Original Message-
From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 3
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>> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 5:37 PM
>> To: wangyali ; Gyan Mishra
>> ; Robert Raszuk
>> Cc: Huzhibo ; Aijun Wang
>> ; Tony Li ; lsr
>> ; Tianran Zhou
>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification
PM
> To: wangyali ; Gyan Mishra
> ; Robert Raszuk
> Cc: Huzhibo ; Aijun Wang
> ; Tony Li ; lsr
> ; Tianran Zhou
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for
> draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
>
> Yali,
>
> On 03/03/2021 06:02, wangyali wrote:
>>
; lsr ; Tianran Zhou
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Yali,
On 03/03/2021 06:02, wangyali wrote:
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your comments. Yes. I am improving this sentence. Please review the
following update.
OLD: " And Level 1/Level 2 PSNP and Le
2, 2021 5:12 PM
> To: wangyali ; Gyan Mishra
> ; Robert Raszuk
> Cc: Huzhibo ; Aijun Wang
> ; Tony Li ; lsr
> ; Tianran Zhou
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for
> draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
>
> Yali,
>
> On 01/03/2021 10:49, wangyali wrote:
>
Best,
Yali
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Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:23 PM
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draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-0
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Yali,
regards,
Yali
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Hi Yali
.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:23 PM
To: Gyan Mishra ; Robert Raszuk
Cc: Huzhibo ; Aijun Wang ; Tony Li
; lsr ; Tianran Zhou ; wangyali
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Gyan,
On 26/02/2021 17:19, Gyan Mishra wrote:
MFI seems more like
t regards,
> Yali
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wangyali
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 1:24 PM
> To: Tony Li
> Cc: lsr@ietf.org; Huzhibo ; Aijun Wang
> ; Tianran Zhou
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>
>
]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:23 PM
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wangyali
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Gyan,
On 26/02/2021 17:19, Gyan Mishra wrote:
>
> MFI seems mor
Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
MFI seems more like flex algo with multiple sub topologies sharing a common
links in a topology where RFC 8202 MI is separated at the process level
separate LSDB. So completely different and of course different goals and use
cases for MI versus MFI
Monday, February 22, 2021 9:59 AM
To: Aijun Wang ; Tianran Zhou
; wangyali ; Huzhibo
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
A new version of I-D, draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt has been successfully
submitted by Yali Wang and posted to the IETF reposit
ianran Zhou
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi,
Thank you for contributing your draft. I’m writing because I’m having trouble
understanding the motivation for this work.
First off, I do NOT want to argue about carrying unnecessary infor
Peter
On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 7:23 AM Peter Psenak wrote:
> Gyan,
>
> On 26/02/2021 17:19, Gyan Mishra wrote:
> >
> > MFI seems more like flex algo with multiple sub topologies sharing a
> > common links in a topology where RFC 8202 MI is separated at the
> > process level separate LSDB. So
Gyan,
On 26/02/2021 17:19, Gyan Mishra wrote:
MFI seems more like flex algo with multiple sub topologies sharing a
common links in a topology where RFC 8202 MI is separated at the
process level separate LSDB. So completely different and of course
different goals and use cases for MI
MFI seems more like flex algo with multiple sub topologies sharing a common
links in a topology where RFC 8202 MI is separated at the process level
separate LSDB. So completely different and of course different goals and
use cases for MI versus MFI.
MFI also seems to be a flood reduction
rnet-dra...@ietf.org]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:59 AM
To: Aijun Wang ; Tianran Zhou
; wangyali ; Huzhibo
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
A new version of I-D, draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt has been successfully
submitted by
Aijun,
How multi instance is implemented is at the discretion of a vendor. It can
be one process N threads or N processes. It can be both and operator may
choose.
MFI is just one process - by the spec - so it is inferior.
Cheers,
R.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:44 PM Aijun Wang wrote:
> Hi,
Hi, Robert:
Separate into different protocol instances can accomplish the similar task, but
it has some deployment overhead.
MFIs within one instance can avoid such cumbersome work, and doesn’t affect the
basic routing calculation process.
Aijun Wang
China Telecom
> On Feb 26, 2021, at 19:00,
Hi Yali,
> If this was precise, then the existing multi-instance mechanism would be
> sufficient.
> [Yali]: MFI is a different solution we recommend to solve this same and
> valuable issue.
>
Well the way I understand this proposal MFI is much weaker solution in
terms of required separation.
: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi Yali,
Thank you for your reply. More comments...
> Given this, what is it that you’re trying to accomplish? You’ve called this
> a ‘multi-flooding instance’, but it’s very unclear about what that means.
>
Hi Yali,
Thank you for your reply. More comments...
> Given this, what is it that you’re trying to accomplish? You’ve called this
> a ‘multi-flooding instance’, but it’s very unclear about what that means.
> You say that multiple MFIs exist within a single IS-IS instance.
>>> Yali: The
ct: RE: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
IMO there is no need for this draft to exist.
Before a need for such a draft can be established two things have to happen in
the following order:
1)There has to be WG consensus that application info such as VTN should be
adve
ianran Zhou
Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
Hi,
Thank you for contributing your draft. I’m writing because I’m having trouble
understanding the motivation for this work.
First off, I do NOT want to argue about carrying unnecessary infor
bo ; Aijun Wang
> ; Tianran Zhou
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
>
> Hi all,
>
> In order to separate multiple flooding instances for dissemination of routing
> information and other types of application-specific information to m
wang-lsr-isis-mfi/ .
>
> Any questions and comments are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Yali
>
> -Original Message-
> From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:59 AM
> To: Aijun Wang ; Tianran Zhou
> ; wangyali ; Huz
.
Thanks,
Yali
-Original Message-
From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 9:59 AM
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Subject: New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt
A new version of I-D, draft
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