Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Bottomley
Darryl Palmer wrote: > On 9/20/06, Ben Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> In terms of purely of Firefox, and the openoffice.org thing is new (to >> me) >> and worrying, how does using this switch affect the situation: >> >> --no-xshm Don't use X shared memory extension > > > Th

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-22 Thread Darryl Palmer
On 9/20/06, Ben Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: In terms of purely of Firefox, and the openoffice.org thing is new (to me) and worrying, how does using this switch affect the situation: --no-xshm   Don't use X shared memory extension   That would be a very bad idea.  Normally X comm

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-21 Thread Jim McQuillan
Ben Green wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:24:18 +0100, Todd Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Correcting these issues may not decrease performance, and they could >> increase performance. >> > > In terms of purely of Firefox, and the openoffice.org thing is new (to me) > and wo

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Ben Green
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:24:18 +0100, Todd Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correcting these issues may not decrease performance, and they could > increase performance. In terms of purely of Firefox, and the openoffice.org thing is new (to me) and worrying, how does using this switch affect

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Todd Shoemaker
Jim- Strange, I've never experienced problems with FF, but then I usually end up closing and re-opening Firefox periodically. I've also never run into the "hundreds of megs of memory usage" issue that many have reported, probably as a result of restarting Firefox periodically. FWIW, my termi

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Todd Shoemaker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think that you should realize that WE DON'T WANT THIS FIXED !! > > Why should zillions of users have crappy performance so that LTSP users can > have small ram? > > Correcting these issues may not decrease performance, and they could increase performance. Remember

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Scott Balneaves
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 09:17:37AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think that you should realize that WE DON'T WANT THIS FIXED !! Uhh, yes we do: we'd like it fixed properly. If you have a lot of virtual memory, which is pretty darned easy for any application to figure out, then you can cach

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread jam
On Thursday 21 September 2006 03:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > With linux terminals (like LTSP) the memory used by the X server is > realy an issue, because it can (and will) crash the terminal. The memory > on a terminal is usualy low, and swap by network should be avoided to > prevent network s

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Jim McQuillan
Francis, I agree that the memory issue with the Xserver is a huge pain. I leave my terminal on all the time. I find that it usually crashes after about 1 week. Much more quickly, if I've been viewing lots of images with firefox. I think most people don't see this, because they log out every da

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Todd Shoemaker
Francis- With the OpenOffice transparency phenomenon, that indicates to me that perhaps they are using X-server pixmaps to do the preparation of the print job? I wonder happens if you are running the terminal in 8-bit mode? Does that mean that your prints will be limited to 256 colors or les

[Ltsp-discuss] Abusive memory usage through X server

2006-09-20 Thread Francis Giraldeau
Hi, With linux terminals (like LTSP) the memory used by the X server is realy an issue, because it can (and will) crash the terminal. The memory on a terminal is usualy low, and swap by network should be avoided to prevent network staturation. It seems that many application can cause this prob