> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:25:34 -0500 (COT)
> From: John Jairo de la Rosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] problems with ltsp
>
> David, in your answer you tell me that the monitor can't
handle the the
> signal coming from the card, but when I use windows 98 or
Red Hat on
> this machine , there is no problems with the monitor, so I
think the 
> problem is by the LTSP, isn't it?

John-

The problem is that the settings that the X-server is using
are telling the video card to produce a signal that the
monitor is incapable of handling.  If you choose to call
this an "LTSP problem" that is your choice, but you would be
facing the same problem with X-Windows and this video card
and monitor combination even if you were not using LTSP.  I
would call it a "X-Windows vs. monitor" problem.

When you had Red Hat installed locally on this machine, you
probably easily avoided the problem because it came with a
nice Xconfigurator/XF86Setup program to detect your video
hardware and perhaps your monitor and it provided a ton of
good settings options for X-Windows to work with.

> For the other monitor, can I configure the lts.conf file
of this way?:
> 
>   [ws02]
>   XSERVER=XF86_svga
>   X_MODE_0=800X600
>   X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
>   RUNLEVEL=5
> 
> but I don't know how it's configured the refresh rate for
having 
> a slower refresh rate.

It sounds like you are using XFree86 version 3.3.6 (your
XSERVER setting starts with "XF86_"), in which case, you're
best off installing Red Hat locally again (or putting the
video card on an existing Linux box) and configuring XFree86
using XF86Setup or Xconfigurator.  Then, copy the
/etc/X11/XF86Config file to your LTSP server as something
like 'XF86Config_stupid_monitor'.  Then you can just
reference that file in the lts.conf:

http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-3.0.0/ltsp-3.0.html#AEN1016

(XF86CONFIG_FILE option)

NOTE:  If you aren't using X336 (i.e. version 4.x), then
this shouldn't be happening because 4.x does almost
everything automatically.  But since it is, I would switch
back to 3.3.6, just to take more manual control of the
situation.

> I think in the parameter X_VERTREFRESH, but I don't know
which are its 
> values.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO/index.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/XFree86-HOWTO/index.html
And once you get a display you can at least read, use
xvidtune to perform fine adjustments.

> Which values can I put in XSERVER?

Read, please!

http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-3.0.0/ltsp-3.0.html#AEN1016
http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-3.0.0/ltsp-3.0.html#AEN1529
http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-3.0.0/ltsp-3.0.html#AEN1535
and if you still need more info,
http://www.xfree86.org/support.html

I believe in an earlier message that you indicated that you
thought the problem might be with this setting.  But if you
are getting as far as you are, then this setting is fine.
Otherwise you would get an error about "devices".

> please, send me a example of this configuration because
Tomorrow I must 
> deliver the solution for this problem

Remember, you're getting this helpful advice *free of
charge* from a community of volunteers.  That's all I'll say
to this.

Jason

PS:  Jim is constantly repeating this on the list to people
having problems configuring X on the station...  Start in
RUNLEVEL 3 and manually type /tmp/start_ws so you can see
the errors on the console (Shift-PgUp to go back).  You
should be in RUNLEVEL 3 the whole time you are debugging
this.

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