Re: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-23 Thread cpaul
If I didn't know any better, I'd think that you were a paid saboteur for the proprietary software industry. Shape up or take your bullshit off this list. On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 01:47:29PM -1000, LinuxDan wrote: I love this list. I have gained so much support for my non-profit group so

Re: [luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-23 Thread Dan
Correct! Six months ago I made a suggestion to the group that the chit chat be trimmed down to business conversations and that inflamed some EGOs. But remember long before I signed on the list some of who already split from the group over petty bickering. Maybe the problem wasnt the people

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread cpaul
GLUUG Meeting! if meetingplace == Irish Pub: GLUUG = Guinness Loving, Unix Using Geeks else: GLUUG = GNU/Linux Unix Users Group I think that all affected parties should show up so that we can hash out the recent arguments/discussions on this list. (which i think are caused

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread Dustin Cross
OH YEA, Lets go have some fun! How about Karaoke? Dusty On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:24:38PM -1000, Vince Hoang wrote: Apologies in advance to the non-Oahu members. Given the recent threads (both high and low quality), I am wondering if the list members would be interested in a little get

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread Brian Low
Aloha all, I think GLUUG is a great idea :) Guinness and UNIX go hand in hand. A little shot of Glenfiddich sounds good too :) How does Fergison on the bottom of Bishop St. sounds? It is near the corner of Ala Moana and Bishop St. If you come down Bishop St. it will be on your Left

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread Stan Baptista
Date/time? --- Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha all, I think GLUUG is a great idea :) Guinness and UNIX go hand in hand. A little shot of Glenfiddich sounds good too :) How does Fergison on the bottom of Bishop St. sounds? It is near the corner of Ala Moana and Bishop

[luau] setup and config question

2003-02-23 Thread Charles Lockhart
Ok, I just built a new system that uses a Asus P4S8X motherboard. I set it up to dual boot Windows and Linux. The Windows side works fine, but on the Linux side I'm having problems gettign networking to, uh, work. I loaded Redhat8.0 onto it. The install seemed to go fine, I don't remember

Re: [luau] setup and config question

2003-02-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 02:49:40PM -1000, Charles Lockhart wrote: Ok, I just built a new system that uses a Asus P4S8X motherboard. I kind of expected this would happen, as I get kind of wierd results combining Linux and motherboards that integrate a lot of functionality. Wierd in that they

Re: [luau] setup and config question

2003-02-23 Thread Jimen Ching
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Charles Lockhart wrote: Recommendations please? What should I try? You haven't given too much information about your network configuration. But try the opposite of what you have setup so far. I.e. if you're using DHCP, try static IP or vis versa. Also, if your NIC support

Re: [luau] setup and config question

2003-02-23 Thread Warren Togami
Please boot into single mode and send the following information: cat /etc/modules.conf lspci -v lscpi -vvn This should help me search for clues. Your motherboard sounds like it has newer chipsets on it so perhaps Red Hat 8.0 didn't support it yet? Have you tried Red Hat 8.0.94 beta (phoebe3)

RE: [luau] Givebacks A Little History

2003-02-23 Thread Jeff Zidek
Hey look guys, sounds like a personal problem to me. With this list open to the public, any use for personal attacks or squabbles looks childish. If you are as professional as you say, you should see that this disscusion is better taken care of off the list. What are you expecting to gain. When

Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-23 Thread al plant
Vince Hoang wrote: Please, take it offline. Otherwise, the trolls win. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ### Throw water on it I haven't seen a Linux flame war like

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Sunday 23 February 2003 06:21 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. Fergison - does that place have a kitchen too? (I need my fried potato-starch :) Sometime after 6PM sounds best for me... After 6, some place with a kitchen, and some place with Parking. This sounds like a great idea to

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 06:57:53PM -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote: After 6, some place with a kitchen, and some place with Parking. OK.. So let us shoot for this coming Friday, 2003-02-28, at 18:30? I am not sure about parking availability downtown. Can someone familiar with the pubs chime in?

[luau] How to uninstall GNOME from Redhat 8?

2003-02-23 Thread demon_jr808
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know how to uninstall GNOME from Redhat 8, so that I can use just the plain X-Windows manager? I tried using the RPM GUI, but it only allowed me to uninstall extra GNOME packages, not the standard ones, which I assume are needed to run GNOME. Thanks!

Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-23 Thread Warren Togami
al plant wrote: The Hawaii DOE is useless in any case. ( But the new Gov. is trying to change it.) We should stick to the private schools like Mid PAC and renegades in the State System like Mililani that appreciate the Open Source movement and the help HOSEF can provide. Mililani has

Re: [luau] How to uninstall GNOME from Redhat 8?

2003-02-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 08:00:46PM -1000, demon_jr808 wrote: Does anyone know how to uninstall GNOME from Redhat 8, so that I can use just the plain X-Windows manager? You do not have to uninstall GNOME to run a different window manager. Say you want to use WindowMaker, here is one way to

Re: [luau] How to uninstall GNOME from Redhat 8?

2003-02-23 Thread Warren Togami
demon_jr808 wrote: Hi Everyone, Does anyone know how to uninstall GNOME from Redhat 8, so that I can use just the plain X-Windows manager? I tried using the RPM GUI, but it only allowed me to uninstall extra GNOME packages, not the standard ones, which I assume are needed to run GNOME.

Re: [luau] users meet

2003-02-23 Thread Brian Low
Paul, He does have some food, but not much. Maybe Murphy's is better :) Brian On Sunday, February 23, 2003, at 06:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. Fergison - does that place have a kitchen too? (I need my fried potato-starch :) Sometime after 6PM sounds best for me... On Sun, Feb

Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-23 Thread Brian Low
Aloha all, Here is a suggestion about Trolls win, why not just drop the whole thread. I do see some good light in this e-mail :) but why have the same subject Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit? This only confuses the matter further. Brian On Sunday, February 23, 2003, at 08:07

RE: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-23 Thread Jeff Zidek
Maybe Millilani will donate their sun equipment to us. We could then install with linux and help another school. Just a thought Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[luau] changing to top level threads

2003-02-23 Thread Vince Hoang
Was In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 09:23:25PM -1000, Brian Low wrote: Aloha all, Here is a suggestion about Trolls win, why not just drop the whole thread. I do see some good light in this e-mail :) but why have the same subject Re: [luau] Trolls win when people

[luau] I recorded Bruce Perens Talk of the Nation Science Friday

2003-02-23 Thread Jeff Zidek
I recorded Bruce Perens Talk of the Nation Science Friday. I have it as MP3 or CD. Anyone want a copy? If so let me know. I will burn it for free. All I ask is for a cdr blank so I can burn for the next person. Jeff Zidek

[luau] Clarification for this Friday

2003-02-23 Thread Ho'ala Greevy
So are we in agreement to meet this Friday, 6:30PM, at Murphy's? Reasonable prices, good food, pretty good beer -- http://gomurphys.com Most if not all street parking in downtown is free after 5:30PM. Good place to park for Murphy's is on the mauka side of King St. near the intersection of

Re: [luau] I recorded Bruce Perens Talk of the Nation Science Friday

2003-02-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 10:32:03PM -1000, Jeff Zidek wrote: I recorded Bruce Perens Talk of the Nation Science Friday. I have it as MP3 or CD. Anyone want a copy? If so let me know. I will burn it for free. All I ask is for a cdr blank so I can burn for the next person. Jeff Zidek Would there

RE: [luau] I recorded Bruce Perens Talk of the Nation Science Friday

2003-02-23 Thread Jeff Zidek
I think I better get perrmission from National Public Radio if we want to do that. But I would be glad to ask. Jeff Zidek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vince Hoang Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [luau] HOSEF is lonely without you

2003-02-23 Thread Gary Dunn
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:12:51 -1000 R. Scott Belford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Twice a week I invite the public to our HOSEF gatherings at Pricebusters Stadium Marketplace. This is for all things Linux. I am happy to say that I made it to Pricebuster's on Saturday and got a chance to meet

Re: [luau] HOSEF is lonely without you

2003-02-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 11:35:48PM -1000, Gary Dunn wrote: I recommend to anyone planning to participate that they bring at least a #2 Phillips screwdriver. Heh. We are short in the tools department. I keep forgetting to bring the Leatherman. -Vince

Re: [luau] HOSEF is lonely without you

2003-02-23 Thread Karen Lofstrom
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Vince Hoang wrote: Heh. We are short in the tools department. I keep forgetting to bring the Leatherman. Next time ask me (that is, if I get there at any time before the last hour ... ). I not only had my toolbox, I had my Leatherman. I carry it because it makes me feel