Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-17 Thread Dwight Victor
That's the beauty of Linux...more than one way to do any job. On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:21:13 -1000, Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:32:45AM -1000, Dwight Victor wrote: I guess using tcpd/libwrap in conjunction with iptables will provide another layer of

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-17 Thread Matt Darnell
That's the beauty of Linux...more than one way to do any job. I thought the beauty of Linux was the Penguin. -Matt

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-15 Thread Vince Hoang
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 11:32:45AM -1000, Dwight Victor wrote: I guess using tcpd/libwrap in conjunction with iptables will provide another layer of security. Could use iptables to allow specific IP addresses and tcpd/libwrap to allow specific users. Libwrap provides user access restrictions

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-13 Thread Vince Hoang
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:42:10PM -1000, Dwight Victor wrote: Hmmm. If the wrapper is first to receive data, and finds that the attempt should be denied, whouldn't it drop the connection? Why would it pass the buffered information to the SSH daemon? How can you implement a buffer overflow on

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-13 Thread Ho'ala Greevy
I agree with Vince on this. About 3 yrs ago I did some consulting for a client who had initially believed tcp_wrapper was enough to thwart attacks via ssh. By the time I was allowed shell access to the machine, it had long been compromised. Mind you, it also had an outdated version of openssh.

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Dwight Victor
If you know the IP addresses of the machines that you'll be SSHing from...it's best to compile your version of SSH to support tcp_wrappers and configure your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files to only allow SSH access from your know IP addresses. This also helps cut down on those

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Vince Hoang
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:31:56AM -1000, Dwight Victor wrote: If you know the IP addresses of the machines that you'll be SSHing from...it's best to compile your version of SSH to support tcp_wrappers and configure your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files to only allow SSH access from

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Dwight Victor
Are you sure about that Vince? The way I understand how tcp_wrappers works is that the wrapper is actually listening on the service port and when the attempt is successfully authenticated against the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files, the wrapper passes control to the actual service. A

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Tom_Gordon/RISE/HIDOE
cc Subject Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice Are you sure about that Vince? The way I understand how tcp_wrappers works is that the wrapper is actually listening on the service port and when the attempt is successfully authenticated against the /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny files

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Vince Hoang
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:27:43PM -1000, Dwight Victor wrote: Are you sure about that Vince? Almost certain, yes. The way I understand how tcp_wrappers works is that the wrapper is actually listening on the service port and when the attempt is successfully authenticated against the

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Vince Hoang
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:45:25PM -1000, Tom_Gordon/RISE/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't libwrap the old way of doing things? Would using iptables not be faster? Faster in performance, yes. Faster and simpler in configuration, generally no. -Vince

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Tom_Gordon/RISE/HIDOE
That is matter of opinion, not fact, Obiwan. Tom Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/01/2005 04:40 PM Please respond to LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org To LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org cc Subject Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 02:45:25PM

Re: [LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2005-01-12 Thread Dwight Victor
Yes, an interesting discussion. Almost seems like we need to do an empirical study. Vince said: To get tcp-wrapper support for an application, you either add the checks directly to the application or run a process that has been compiled with libwrap to perform the host checks before handing

[LUAU] Excellent SSH advice

2004-12-17 Thread R. Scott Belford
In monitoring the K12OSN list, the following piece of SSH advice was eloquently shared by a gentleman by the name of Rob Owens. It is so good that it *must* be shared. Quoted from Rob Owens The topic of ssh security was touched upon in the uh oh thread. I have a couple comments about it.