Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Bad news for old Intel video

2011-06-08 Thread Steven
i8xx is actually in a pretty good state right now. In Ubuntu since Maverick, the X server is running the fbdev driver, and all (I think) of the stability problems are fixed, but at a noticeable performance degradation. Upstream, a fix has been released since the 2.6.38-rc7 kernel which seems to ma

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 09/06/2011 12:34, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > Why? What is the value of being able to "still keep lubuntu-desktop"? Because new packages being added to lubuntu-desktop will be pulled in when it is upgraded. If you remote lubuntu-desktop, you won't get any of the new additions. And it can be hard

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/08/2011 08:01 AM, Markus Brummer wrote: > For 2), you can now remove "useless" programs and install > alternatives, and still keep lubuntu-desktop installed (I currently > use lubuntu-core and install what I need on top of that). Why? What is the value of being able to "still keep lubuntu-

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: LXDE shutown dependency/permissions?

2011-06-08 Thread Eric
OK, Just want to give an update. For those interested, I went back to my install notes to see if any of the recommended packages stood out from the pack. I installed most everything using "--without-recommends" Here is output from when I installed lxde root@natty:/usr/share/locale# aptitude i

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ?

2011-06-08 Thread Ian Gilfillan
Julien, just to clarify, LightDM uses 3.2Mb and LXDM 2.3 and not the other way around? This seems a trivial difference. You've mentioned before that support is important for a DM as it needs to be tested across many different configurations. LightDM seems far more active than LXDM, and in spit

[Lubuntu-desktop] Bad news for old Intel video

2011-06-08 Thread Yorvyk
This passed me by, but is not good news for the sort of machines we are targeting. "In natty, we stopped Ubuntu development support for the 8xx chipset; these may still work OK with the -intel driver but we no longer field bug reports or backport fixes for them. This policy will continue in on

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ?

2011-06-08 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:39:42 +0200 Julien Lavergne wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a bit late for that, but it still time to discuss such topic. > > LightDM [1] will be the next display manager for Ubuntu, and probably > Xubuntu (maybe Kubuntu also !). It will replace GDM which have a tight > dependenc

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Chris
Thanks for all the replies in gedit. I've currently got no machine to test these things, that's why it was only a proposal. I'll install it myself when I need to use it. With metta, Chris Druif On Jun 8, 2011 8:03 PM, "Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset" wrote: > Gedit -1, way too slow on my old machines

[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDM or Lightdm ?

2011-06-08 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi, I'm a bit late for that, but it still time to discuss such topic. LightDM [1] will be the next display manager for Ubuntu, and probably Xubuntu (maybe Kubuntu also !). It will replace GDM which have a tight dependency on GNOME. LightDM has the advantage to split the greeter (the UI part) an

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Gedit -1, way too slow on my old machines. (P3 and below) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Markus Brummer
Hi, I'd like to clarify my point, why dropping depencies to recommends is a DRAW/WIN/WIN. There are three groups of people: 1) "I like lubuntu / lubuntu-desktop the way it is, please don't tinker around" 2) "I want another program for my needs than what lubuntu-desktop is proposing" 3) "I'm low

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Mittwoch 08 Juni 2011, 15:23:56 schrieb 神癒礁湖 "(Rafael Laguna)": > It's slow for me too. Even in Gnome, when using two or three plugins > it's annoying. Another option could be Scribes. It's a bit strange, but > it has syntax highlighting and doesn't have too much dependencies. But I > don't know

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop

2011-06-08 Thread (Rafael Laguna)
It's slow for me too. Even in Gnome, when using two or three plugins it's annoying. Another option could be Scribes. It's a bit strange, but it has syntax highlighting and doesn't have too much dependencies. But I don't know if its development status. -- Go to rafaellaguna.com Go to Lubuntu.net