Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-21 05:41, Jonathan Marsden wrote: ... > > If you want to argue for something more like: > > Graphics Editor (mtpaint) > > that's fine, at least it still includes the program name and so is > distinguishable from (for example): > > Graphics Editor (gimp) > > One issue I see here

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/20/2013 09:12 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > I'd like this discussion to continue, as it just makes sense to > do it that way. One issue is what Win98 does, if that is your target audience for this... it just uses program names, as far as I know. If you install 7zip you don't get a menu item

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Jonathan, I never said it was do-able, on the docs area we are currently discussing man pages... Oddly enough they are linked in an abstract way. My thoughts are along your lines, as to if this is possible is doubtful. But stating "it is the way we have always done things" is not the answer. I'd l

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/20/2013 08:30 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > by the same argument, does a new comer want to see "Use this for > documents" and "use this for spreadsheets"... a new comer will look at > the menu and look for "What it does". I do believe this discussion > should be taken further as we are expect

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Jonathan, by the same argument, does a new comer want to see "Use this for documents" and "use this for spreadsheets"... a new comer will look at the menu and look for "What it does". I do believe this discussion should be taken further as we are expecting windoze 98 people to be using lubuntu. I

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 09/20/2013 10:19 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > it is a matter of not confusing people... Would a new comer to lubuntu > know what gpicview was? Or, indeed, would they care? That it is called > Image Viewer does make it clear what it does. But, then we have the > entry "mtpaint Graphic Editor"...

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Lars Noodén
Right. It should be all one way or another. The mpaint part, for example, is not needed. If it is to be by what the application does, then there is still some tidying to do. There are some applications that are refered to only by name. Audacious, GNOME Mplayer, Xfburn, PCManFM, AbiWord, Gnumer

Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Lars Noodén
When trying to view a PNG file, Evince chokes: Unable to open document "file:///home/lars/Pictures/ 2013-09-20-181032_1680x1050_scrot.png" File type PNG image (image/png) is not supported Has this bug already been reported? The image view should support PNG, sinc

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Lars Noodén
Ok. Thanks. I was trying to view documents in the PNG format. ;) I've now found gpicview in accessories, though not by name. Regards, /Lars On 09/20/2013 07:20 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi Lars, > > according to the wiki entry [1] *Evince* is a document > viewer

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Nio Wiklund
Yes, that is a good idea, to do it, and do it well for 14.04. Either have menu entries with - only what the programs do, or both, - but not only the name. The name means nothing to a beginner, but might be useful for more experienced users. But the simplest and cleanest way it to have only what

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Maybe something we can look into for the 14.04. We'd need to check with Julien as to what work would need doing. I think it does make sense to have 'what' they do listed in the Menu area as opposed to the application name. Regards, Phill. On 20 September 2013 18:24, Lars Noodén wrote: > Right

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Lars, according to the wiki entry [1] *Evince* is a document viewer for PDF , PostScript , DjVu , TIFF

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Well, it is a matter of not confusing people... Would a new comer to lubuntu know what gpicview was? Or, indeed, would they care? That it is called Image Viewer does make it clear what it does. But, then we have the entry "mtpaint Graphic Editor"... does it need the mtpaint part, or would it bette

IRC Meeting

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, the final Beta for 13.10 will be available for testing on Monday 23rd September in the evening (Europe time). On Tuesday 24th September there will be an IRC meeting to discuss where lubuntu stands in terms of status of lubuntu now and any work items that were not completed that will be carried

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Nio Wiklund
+1 I agree, it should be consistent. Maybe the main entry should be what is does (and within parenthesis, the name). But someone has to do it, and it is a lot of tedious work to make it complete. Best regards Nio On 2013-09-20 18:40, Lars Noodén wrote: > That's something that could be polished

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Lars Noodén
That's something that could be polished a little. There are some applications that are labeled in the menu by what they do, others by the name of the application. It would be more consistent to go completely one way or the other. Regards, /Lars On 09/20/2013 07:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > A

Re: Evince image viewer cannot view PNG

2013-09-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Ahh, yes, didn't notice that it is called simply "Image Viewer" in the menu. That I never call it that way is my only pathetic defence :) I just double click the file via pcmanfm and it launches :D Regards, Phill. On 20 September 2013 17:26, Lars Noodén wrote: > Ok. Thanks. I was trying to