Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-04 Thread Mag Gam
Either way Andres. We appreciate the talk. My masters OS design class talked about this for 45 mins today :-) You are a celebrity. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 11:17 -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: >> >> To be more clear - TCP isn't used on IB, Elan

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-04 Thread Andreas Dilger
On Aug 04, 2009 14:35 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 11:17 -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: > > To be more clear - TCP isn't used on IB, Elan, Myrinet, Cray networks. > > On the socklnd (TCP sockets over IP, called tcplnd on some platforms) > > tcplnd or socklnd? Generally it

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-04 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 11:17 -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: > > To be more clear - TCP isn't used on IB, Elan, Myrinet, Cray networks. > On the socklnd (TCP sockets over IP, called tcplnd on some platforms) tcplnd or socklnd? Generally it's the latter, but I wonder if you are referring to some plat

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-04 Thread Andreas Dilger
On Aug 03, 2009 08:55 -0400, Brock Palen wrote: > Thanks to Andreas for taking an hour out to talk with Jeff Squyres and > myself (Brock Palen) about the Lustre cluster filesystem on our > podcast www.rce-cast.com, > > You can find the whole show at: > http://www.rce-cast.com/index.php/Podcas

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-04 Thread Andreas Dilger
On Aug 03, 2009 22:33 -0400, Mag Gam wrote: > its really bizzare because you can read all the manuals in the world > and read all the responses on the mailing list, but 30 mins of a good > developers time is priceless. I never even knew lnet didn't use tcp! To be more clear - TCP isn't used on IB

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-04 Thread Mag Gam
Palen [bro...@umich.edu] > Sent: 08/03/2009 08:35 PM AST > To: Mag Gam > Cc: lustre-discuss discuss > Subject: Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger) > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm > > Looks like you intentio

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Peter J Milanese
Yes, it hold up any packet that is less than the size of the header, and forwards multiple. - Original Message - From: Brock Palen [bro...@umich.edu] Sent: 08/03/2009 08:35 PM AST To: Mag Gam Cc: lustre-discuss discuss Subject: Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Mag Gam
its really bizzare because you can read all the manuals in the world and read all the responses on the mailing list, but 30 mins of a good developers time is priceless. I never even knew lnet didn't use tcp! Thats great stuff On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Kevin Van Maren wrote: > Yes, original

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Kevin Van Maren
Yes, originally designed so multiple send() calls with small data have a chance to be combined by TCP before being sent over the network -- improve behavior of applications doing small writes. Setting tcp_nodelay disables Nagle, as the additional latency can hurt some interactive session per

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Mag Gam
eitherway, good job on the interview. Andres was a sport. try to interview more Lustre developers :-) On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Brock Palen wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm > > Looks like you intentionally hold up data to try to make fatter payloads in > packets

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Brock Palen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm Looks like you intentionally hold up data to try to make fatter payloads in packets so they are not 99% header/crc data. Sounds like a way to make latency bad. Brock Palen www.umich.edu/~brockp Center for Advanced Computing bro...@umich.edu (7

Re: [Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Mag Gam
Very nice. 15:54, what is "Nagle" ? He didn't say anything about SNS, but changeLogs seems very promising! On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Brock Palen wrote: > Thanks to Andreas for taking an hour out to talk with Jeff Squyres and > myself (Brock Palen) about the Lustre cluster filesystem on o

[Lustre-discuss] Lustre featured on podcast (HT: Andreas Dilger)

2009-08-03 Thread Brock Palen
Thanks to Andreas for taking an hour out to talk with Jeff Squyres and myself (Brock Palen) about the Lustre cluster filesystem on our podcast www.rce-cast.com, You can find the whole show at: http://www.rce-cast.com/index.php/Podcast/rce-14-lustre-cluster-filesystem.html Thanks again! If any