Re: Vivaldi Lute Concerto

2003-12-22 Thread doc rossi
I think questions concerning which octave, which instrument, are anachronistic - in those days you played the music you wanted to play on the instrument you had, and adapted the music to suit. This is quite harshly put, but the gist is there. I've performed Vivaldi on 18th-century cittern in

Vivaldi Lute Concerto

2003-12-22 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Doc, I think you're being a little unfair to musicologists. You are certainly right that people in the past were practical folk, and would play music on whatever instruments were available to them, and there's no reason why we shouldn't do likewise. However, that's not really the point. I can

Merry Christmas from the country of Santa Claus!

2003-12-22 Thread Arto Wikla
Merry Christmas to you, lutenist friends and friends of lutes! Perhaps it is especially appropriate to wish this from Finland, the contry where Santa lives, and from where he travels around the globe every Christmas! :-) Below are some links that might interest you or your children, as some k

Re: FW: A mystery: Ukrainian Cobza in Baroque Italy

2003-12-22 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Most people would consider it a colascione, though. ;-) Stephan Am 21 Dec 2003 um 20:54 hat Roman Turovsky geschrieben: > A Ukrainian (!?!?!?) Cobza has been spotted in "The Concert" by > Alessandro Mangasco (private collection, Bergamo, Italy). Magnasco, a > Genoese, lived from 1667 to 1749. T

Re: A mystery: Ukrainian Cobza in Baroque Italy

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
> > Most people would consider it a colascione, though. ;-) > Stephan Except for a feature that has not been previously seen in colascioni: psaltery set-up above the strings. RT >> A Ukrainian (!?!?!?) Cobza has been spotted in "The Concert" by >> Alessandro Mangasco (private collection, Bergamo

Re: A mystery: Ukrainian Cobza in Baroque Italy

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> Most people would consider it a colascione, though. ;-) >> Stephan > > Except for a feature that has not been previously seen in colascioni: psaltery > set-up above the strings. > RT Not to mention the pegbox RT >>> A Ukrainian (!?!?!?) Cobza has been spotted in "The Concert" by >>> Alessa

CANASCIONE: A relative of colascione???

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.muspe.unibo.it/period/ictm/articles/fugazz.htm

Re: A mystery: Ukrainian Cobza in Baroque Italy

2003-12-22 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 22 Dec 2003 um 8:36 hat Roman Turovsky geschrieben: > > > > Most people would consider it a colascione, though. ;-) > > Stephan > > Except for a feature that has not been previously seen in colascioni: > psaltery set-up above the strings. RT Ah, I see what you mean... Stephan > > >> A

La Cucina Eoliana e Siciliana: calascione

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.lacucinaeoliana.com/calascione.html The name calascione is represented in the Mediterranean fish family for a variety known as pesce chitarra (rhinobatidae/ rhinobatus rhinobatus). Also in Italian regions: Campania: cetola, squadra viuline; Lazio: Mandolino; Marche: Squadre; Puglia: c

Sächsische Theorbenzistern

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_theorb.htm

Lautenzister

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_laute.htm

Toggenburger Halszither

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_togg_hals.htm

Hamburger Cithrinchen+Theorbe

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_hamb_cith.htm

Sister

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_sister.htm

Pandora

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_pandora.htm

Modell Vihuela

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/weissg_vihuela.htm

New piece of the month

2003-12-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear All, In England, Christmas cards often have robins on them (and snow, but it never snows here either), so here is a little seasonal piece of the month, at www.luteshop.fsnet.co.uk and follow "piece of the month". Seasonal greetings to all, Martin

Contact me please

2003-12-22 Thread David Rastall
Ed Durbrow, or Heihachi Tagata, can you contact me please? Very important. Thanks, David Rastall

It was a lover

2003-12-22 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Nigel, By now you will have found Frank Gerbode's site, which Roger Traversac passed on to you via the French Lute List. May I add that Thomas Morley's tablature accompaniment in G major is not easy to play. It's all so much easier, if you transpose everything down a tone to F major. Not only

Re: A mystery: Ukrainian Cobza in Baroque Italy

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> Most people would consider it a colascione, though. ;-) >>> Stephan >> Except for a feature that has not been previously seen in colascioni: >> psaltery set-up above the strings. RT > Ah, I see what you mean... > Stephan There is a Magnasco painting at the Kiev Museum of Occidental Art, but som

Contact

2003-12-22 Thread David Rastall
Is their anyone besides Ed Durbrow on the list who lives in Tokyo, or anywhere in Japan? Would you contact me please? Thanks. David Rastall

bwv996

2003-12-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
Anyone interested in Sautscheck's version of BWV996 (somewhat unorthodox...) is welcome to it at http://polyhymnion.org/swv/opus-2.html Enjoy, RT

lute and viol

2003-12-22 Thread nigelsolomon
Does anybody have the gamba part for the pavan for lute and viol by Francis Pilkington (1st book of Ayres)? Thanks Nigel

Stringing

2003-12-22 Thread G.R. Crona
Listening again to Martin Best's LP from 1974, (inspiring record, with much lute, Argo /Decca ZRG 765) Coverpicture shows a 9 course with top course removed and 1st and 2nd single. Nice lute w/ what seems like metal frets (any particulars available? Not on the record.) Was that the way to play in e

Re: New piece of the month

2003-12-22 Thread G.R. Crona
Thanks Martin I always thought that short and simple one in 2.11(?) (Rooley) was excellent. Merry Christmas Göran - Original Message - From: "Martin Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 21. desember 2003 16:02 Subject: New piece of the month | Dear All, | | In E

Re: Stringing

2003-12-22 Thread corun
Göran wrote: > > Listening again to Martin Best's LP from 1974, (inspiring record, with much > lute, Argo /Decca ZRG 765) Coverpicture shows a 9 course with top course > removed and 1st and 2nd > single. Nice lute w/ what seems like metal frets (any particulars available? > Not on the record.) Was

Re: John Cage on Lute

2003-12-22 Thread Gary Digman
Dear Thomas; Please define "serious composer." Gary Digman - Original Message - From: Thomas Schall Date: 19 Dec 2003 17:36:47 +0100 To: Howard Posner Subject: Re: John Cage on Lute > If I could reg

Re: John Cage on Lute

2003-12-22 Thread Gary Digman
Dear Stewart; Obviously, Cage is not for everyone. I take it you don't like his approach to music. It strikes me that by continuing this discussion, and, in light of Dr. Oakroot's observations, we may be extending Cage's compostion beyond its allotted 4':33". There a

Re: lute and viol

2003-12-22 Thread Rainer aus dem Spring
nigelsolomon wrote: > Does anybody have the gamba part for the pavan for lute and viol by > Francis Pilkington (1st book of Ayres)? > > Thanks > > Nigel > > > Yes, I have it. I can send a pdf file. Rainer adS

Re: Vivaldi Lute Concerto

2003-12-22 Thread doc rossi
Hi Stewart, Thanks for your comments. If I am being unfair to musicologists (and i don't believe I am), I am doing so from inside the group. We agree on the historical and practical reasons you've mentioned, but I think that losing sight of of the musical cultural of a period (as little as we