Re: HIP

2004-08-29 Thread Jon Murphy
Gary, To me HIP means Health Insurance Program (as when I was insured by them in NYC). OK, a bit of annoying trivia. But I think that you have made some good points as to the Information in HIP. I often wonder what Bach would have done if he were arranging for a modern combo. Or what

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2004-08-29 Thread bill
good point and a fine distinction. for me, the whole historic recreation genre ( civil war, medieval banquet, paint-by-numbers, etc. ) is an end to itself. it is interesting; both musically ( in our case ) and historically but it's just one of many possible artistic interpretations for any

Re: HIP

2004-08-29 Thread corun
Gary wrote: Does Historically Informed Performance mean that one studies the particulars of the way music was presented in a given period in order to recreate it as exactly as possible, i.e., the type of clothing worn, the venue, the manner of holding the instrument, the

Re: hip

2004-08-29 Thread James A Stimson
Dear All: I imagine HIP peformances in two different ways. What could be more thrilling than to hear Francesco improvise a fantasia, or to hear Dowland sing one of his own lute songs? But how about hearing a Bach Cantata sung by schoolboys and accompanied by mediocre local instrumentalists,

Re: hip

2004-08-29 Thread corun
Bill wrote: i may have the wrong end of the stick but the emphasis placed on hip by some on the list would seem to imply that the original interpretation of any given piece is the best - best in the sense of being the most valid by being closer to what the composer had in mind - than any

HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-29 Thread Francesco Tribioli
be more thrilling than to hear Francesco improvise a fantasia, or to hear Dowland sing one of his own lute songs? Wow, I guess people would be really thrilled to hear me improvising a fantasia! I would have just to hope they had no ready to launch tomatos in their bags. Some days ago someone

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2004-08-29 Thread Charles Browne
Does anyone have, or know where to get, The Siver Swan by Orlando Gibbons arranged for 4/5 voices and with lute accompaniment in tablature? I can get the lute tablature with one voice and I can also get a four voice arrangement without tablature. Unfortuntely their formats are not compatible.

Re: HIP, etc.

2004-08-29 Thread JEdwardsMusic
Hi Bill and all, A very un HIP album by John Renbourn turned me on to early music, way back in 1972. It was called Sir John-a-lot, of Merry England's Musick Thing, or something like that. I think the story was that he'd been reading Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, and was inspired

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2004-08-29 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Bill, One of the disadvantages of this list is that we rarely meet each other. We may exchange views about this and that via e-mail, but we have to be brief, and we don't really get a chance to understand fully what we all think. There will inevitably be different points of view. That's

Re: hip

2004-08-29 Thread Rainer aus dem Spring
Stewart McCoy wrote: snip... music by Holborne, for example, survives in arrangements for cittern, for lute, for bandora, for 5-part ensemble, for consort (of six), and for keyboard. Arrange it for charango, and you'll be utterly HIP. :-) and for cittern + bass (viol?) and for lute,

Re: Tautology

2004-08-29 Thread Roman Turovsky
That's what one might call poetic licence, and what our own Her Theolog has explained to us in slightly different terms. RT Hello Roman, without looking in a dictionary: not only John, but also Immanuel called cogito ergo sum a tautology in his Kritik der reinen Vernunft. Yours Andreas

Re: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-29 Thread Vance Wood
Dear Francesco: I agree that calling Francesco, Francesco could be misleading but it seems in music the name that is applied is the name that is most commonly used and understood. When we say Dowland most everyone understands that to be John Dowland with the possible exception of those who want

Re: hip

2004-08-29 Thread Vance Wood
I understand HIP and I understand Hype, and this is really what divides the points of view on this discussion. As far as I am concerned I will play the Lute in or out of costume any chance I can just to create interest in the instrument which is after all what all of us should be interested in.

Re: hip

2004-08-29 Thread bill
On Domenica, ago 29, 2004, at 22:52 Europe/Rome, Stewart McCoy wrote: I think it is a mistake to see discussions in terms of them and us to tell you the truth, that's exactly how i do see discussions on the list. earlier this year i asked a question about early country music - what were

RE: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-29 Thread Stuart LeBlanc
Perhaps this is explained by the idea that the Renaissance was the rebirth of classical culture, and that Michelangelo, Dante and Francesco da Milano etc were the Virgil, Sophocles and Polyklitus of Rhodes etc of their day. -Original Message- From: Anthony Glass [mailto:[EMAIL