[LUTE] Re: Another (GOOD) renaissance lute on eBay!

2006-06-03 Thread Ed Durbrow
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[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
The lutenist is Soeren Leupold. RT A quick survey of the Naxos Music Library reveals that on the very recently released Naxos recording of the Matthew Passion (8.557617-19) the "Komm suesses Kreuz" is performed with lute obbligato alongside bass Hann Mueller-Brachmann. I'm not sure who the lu

[LUTE] Re: Short tunes

2006-06-03 Thread demery
Paper was expensive, so was the time to write upon it. What appears to be short is, to my mind, simply concise. Consider the typical estampie, with repeats and alternate refrains, several minutes of music are easily written upon half a sheet of paper. There are french poetic forms (eg, de tous bi

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
I just know of David's performances in Amsterdam. By the way, the lute obbligato appears in an early version of the St.Matthew Passion. So it was conceived for lute, and later gamba was used, perhaps because no lute was available. The earlier manuscript (copied by one of JSB's pupils) appears in

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Peter W Jones
A quick survey of the Naxos Music Library reveals that on the very recently released Naxos recording of the Matthew Passion (8.557617-19) the "Komm suesses Kreuz" is performed with lute obbligato alongside bass Hann Mueller-Brachmann. I'm not sure who the lutenist is, but it sounds good, altho

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
Yes, it is the melodic line in the obbligato for "Komm sueses Kreuz" (No. 66). All of those leaps require the gambist to alternate playing on a high string, then leaping over intermediary strings to get a low string. Usually with lots of scratching. On lute, the leaps simply follow the natural con

[LUTE] Re: figured_bass

2006-06-03 Thread Arto Wikla
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006, Roman Turovsky wrote: > For Arto, Howard et al: > http://www.newmusicclassics.com/figured_bass.jpg Heh, heh... :-) Seems to be quite late baroque with those 7th chords and their inversions... Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread LGS-Europe
> David, do you play the obbligato in the St. Matthew, or is it still given > over to gamba? It is so ugly and awkward on the latter instrument, imho. Once I was so lucky - the big hall in the Concertgebouw Amsterdam on Good Friday: how lucky can one get? - to be allowed to play the obliato. On o

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
Oh, I misunderstood. With Bach, might the continuo instrument be gallichon? Bach's predecessor, Johann Kuhnau, pettitioned the Mayor, >>For our concerted sacred music we always have to borrow the so-called _*Colochons*_ [Gallichon--not to be confused with colascione], a type of lute, whose so

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread bill kilpatrick
to me this opens up a larger question concerning the value of beauty - is it ever objective? the lute's "plinking and plonking" - or however it was that goebel described the lute - sounds glib and off-hand .. the sort of subjective peevishness which says: "if i don't like it, it's not good" ... it

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread LGS-Europe
> consulting Music Index or RILM. There are some ensemble > works that include a contuinuo part for guitar in > alfabeto. Even more name guitar on the title page as > an apprpriate continuo instrument, I'm sure there are, but perhaps Reinhard Goebel's point was that Bach's cantatas were not amon

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread Arthur Ness
There is a survey on the use of guiitar as a continuo instrument by Robert Strizich in_*Il fronimo.*_ I do not have the exct citation, but it could be found by consulting Music Index or RILM. There are some ensemble works that include a contuinuo part for guitar in alfabeto. Even more name guitar

[LUTE] Re: Reinahard Goebel and the Lute

2006-06-03 Thread LGS-Europe
But Goebel has a point. Once a year I am asked to play in one particular St. Matthew, bring my archlute and do all the 'appropriate' continuo, but the conductor asks especially for me because I can be so noisy in the 'Unde die erde bebete, unde die Felsen zerrissen, &c" on baroque guitar. Very