[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread David Tayler
Just as a point of reference, the average number of edits on a 60 minute classical CD is about 800. The maximum I have seen on a lute CD (lute CDs run higher than average) is 1800. That works out to one edit every two seconds at the crunchy end, every 4.5 seconds average. YMMV. The CD reveals l

[LUTE] Re: Mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2007 10:42 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mics arrived >Yes, and on Hoppy's "Vieux Gaultier" CD, you can > hear breathing, buzzes, "cracked" notes, and even a > storm outside. I think there's a recording by Diego > Cantalup

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread David Tayler
>>John has tried pretty much all the mics over here, and he favors >>the SP omnis for Budget mics, which are indeed very good. For high end, he selected both the Schoeps MK2 and the Sennheiser MKH80 for his own collection, and I prefer these as well. I think the Oktavas are ever so slightly ro

[LUTE] Re: Holborne, was Theorbo tutor

2007-07-04 Thread Arthur Ness
Stephan, ((This got lost in my Out Basket.)) Your observation is quite apt. And Roger Kanazawa's edition for HUP was still in print just a few years ago. I think the lute volume is OOP, but the cittern one is available. Perhaps when it is OOP, HUP will make both available from ProQuest/UMI Books

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread Edward Martin
Thanks, Chris. Actually, that recording was in 1994, and the engineer had fantastic equipment, but that particular engineer does not believe in single note editing, so they were all entire whole takes. Yes, it was a difficult way to go, and there are warts on it. The easy part was in that it

[LUTE] Re: Mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread chriswilke
Neil, Yes, and on Hoppy's "Vieux Gaultier" CD, you can hear breathing, buzzes, "cracked" notes, and even a storm outside. I think there's a recording by Diego Cantalupi where you can hear birds singing in the background. (I don't even think the piece was by Respighi ;-)) Chris --- Nara

[LUTE] Re: Mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread Narada
Dear David, Stewart, It's strange that you should mention hearing breathing on recordings. On all of the CD's that I have by Paul O'Dette you can hear him breathing. As for putting a sock over the mikes I think the effect would be to muffle the sound and thus reduce the sharpness of quality. Rega

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread chriswilke
Ed, Oh, brave warrior, I kneel at your feet! No edits is certainly the hard way to go! On my CD, I tried to get as natural a sound as possible - fairly close, dry and with few edits. There are a fair number of tracks on there that are done in one uninterrupted take. (Strange thing: on

[LUTE] Re: Mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear David and Stewart Le 4 juil. 07 à 12:57, Stewart McCoy a écrit : > Dear David, > > My impression is that the mikes are too good, inasmuch as they pick up > everything. In the Dowland Pavan I can hear you breathing. I prefer > the > Delight Galliard, where the mikes are a couple of yards or

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread Edward Martin
Actually, my first CD had no editing at all, and I really enjoyed the honest, freshness in accepting whole entire takes without "fixing" buzzes, wrong notes, etc. ed At 09:47 AM 7/4/2007 +0200, LGS-Europe wrote: >As to the editing. I think there's too much editing on cds these days. It >kill

[LUTE] Mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear David, My impression is that the mikes are too good, inasmuch as they pick up everything. In the Dowland Pavan I can hear you breathing. I prefer the Delight Galliard, where the mikes are a couple of yards or so away. How would it sound, if you put a thick sock or similar material over the

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread Anthony Hind
David and Ed This is just a passing thought and I admit more one for the sound engineer than the lutist. I know you probably won't want to go to the extra trouble involved, but one way of making a recording a little less dry is to use a valve and single-ended transformer preamp. This

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread LGS-Europe
Hi Ed Thanks for the compliments. Artificial reverb has the disadvantage of being unnatural. If I play in a dry room, I adjust articulation and speed to it. Added reverb will make those seem out of place. Also, when listening to a recording, close your eyes and imagine the room the player's in, i

[LUTE] Re: mics arrived

2007-07-04 Thread LGS-Europe
Anthony >> Each recording is of a different instrument, so it is difficult to compare in any very serious way. However, I think I like the more << No, they're all on the same 8-course, except the Zamboni. You can compare the last three in a serious way, same mics, same room, I didn't move, just