[BAROQUE-LUTE] magnesium

2007-09-18 Thread henk
I want to approach you (baroque) lute players with the following: In 2000 or 2001 I went to a concert in Amsterdam given by Hopkinson Smith (Concertgebouw). Although I was sitting in the third row I could almost hear nothing of what he was playing and the only alternative was to buy a CD in

[LUTE] Re: hang 'em high

2007-09-18 Thread Anthony Hind
Thanks Ray for this detailed explanation. I do, now, understand why coming back to my dry home from the lutemakers relatively humid atmosphere could have caused the initial crack, but also why local rehumidification by a snake might have worsened the situation, rather than improve it. Any

[LUTE] Re: magnesium

2007-09-18 Thread Anthony Hind
Henk I also saw Hoppy doing exactly what you describe at a Renaissance lute concert in Paris, but also more mysteriously, he put something in the middle of his right hand and rubbed it in. Of course this could just be part of the Hoppy magic. We all went very quiet and concentrated

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:21, henk wrote: .[..] I went to a concert [...] given by Hopkinson Smith [...]. Although I was sitting in the third row I could almost hear nothing of what he was playing [...] I have the same experience of nearly silence in Hopkinson Smith's concert. That time

[LUTE] Re: hang 'em high

2007-09-18 Thread Ray Brohinsky
On 9/18/07, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the piano trade, we have the Dampp-chaser. This is a name-brand humidity control system designed for pianos I will make a search on this damp chaser, but it sounds more as though it removes humidity, Here it is more a problem of

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread Roman Turovsky
VanLennep axes are the problem. RT - Original Message - From: Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Quietness of playing (was: magnesium) On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:21, henk wrote: .[..] I went to a

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: magnesium

2007-09-18 Thread Edward Martin
Hoppy has a problem with keeping his hands warm, and he has a sort of a heater that he keeps in his pocket. That is what he is doing keeping his hands warm. ed At 02:21 PM 9/18/2007 +0200, henk wrote: I want to approach you (baroque) lute players with the following: In 2000 or 2001 I

[LUTE] Re: hang 'em high

2007-09-18 Thread Ron Fletcher
Ray Brohinsky wrote... In New England, the air tends to have a large amount of water in it, year round, but in the heating season (which wraps from early in Fall to late in Spring), cold moist air, drawn into a house and heated, drops in relative humidity. Relative humidity is important because

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread David Rastall
On Sep 18, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Arto Wikla wrote: I have the same experience of nearly silence in Hopkinson Smith's concert. That time it was a renaissance lute. As beautiful as it may be, lute playing could not have been so quiet in the 16th and 17th centuries... Opinions of that? It reminds

[LUTE] Re: hang 'em high

2007-09-18 Thread demery
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have managed to raise humidity levels by filling the bath with hot water, but that is not a very ecological solution yes, it isnt very green to heat the water before placing it in the tub. In places where a woodstove was the

[LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Arto and Henk I have been told by a lutist, who briefly swapped lutes with him, that Hoppy's lutes do not have the greatest projection. Following the swap, Hoppy had more projection, but his own was somewhat reduced. Perhaps, Hoppy considers this as of no great importance. I

[LUTE] chest of ...

2007-09-18 Thread demery
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007, David Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Historical references to a chest of viols or lutes? not able to cite as I write this, but pretty sure the inventories of Henry VIII Rex mention chests in several contexts, including crumhorns and vyals. I suspect that the taking of an

[LUTE] Re: hang 'em high

2007-09-18 Thread demery
In New England, the air tends to have a large amount of water in it, year round ayup, closah to tha watah one is tha moah moistiah thayah be. England is also renowned for being cold and damp. Ayup. a light on inside the (upright) piano Tis true today, tho one need not use a light bulb

[LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread chriswilke
David, --- David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have to keep in mind, though, that most of the solo music lutenists play in large concert halls was not originally intended to be heard that way. Yes, but what about all the descriptions and paintings of lutes being played

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread sterling price
Well first of all he plays over the rose. And he stops the basses so fast that one can't hear them. Sterling --- Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2007 15:21, henk wrote: .[..] I went to a concert [...] given by Hopkinson Smith [...]. Although I was sitting in the

[LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread Edward Martin
Everyone has raised good points on the topic of audibility on hearing lutes in performance settings. One thing, many, many lutenists used the table, where leaning the edge of a lute on a table amplified the sound. This topic has previously been discussed, and Chris Morongiello gave a talk on

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Magnesium

2007-09-18 Thread henk
I agree with Arto: lute playing could not have been so quiet in the 16th and 17th centuries...let alone in the baroque area. I like Sterling's humor very much, because he could be right..? But could anyone refer to my original question about the use of magnesium? Henk - Original Message

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread David Rastall
On Sep 18, 2007, at 1:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but what about all the descriptions and paintings of lutes being played _outside_ ... with ensembles? Where these guys essentially just playing air lute? My point remains: name one piece of solo lute music ever composed for a

[LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread Anthony Hind
Could lutes made for outdoor use have been built differently from chamber lutes? Perhaps, if they did once exist, they would have been prone to damage, and may not have survived. They also could have been less ornate and so of less value, and relatively easily discarded. Here in

[LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread demery
My point remains: name one piece of solo lute music ever composed for a concert-hall. Entire collections of music for Dance exist with the music given in lute tablature. Dance is noisy. One couple dancing isnt too bad, and there were situations where that would have happened; but in a

[LUTE] Re: Quietness of playing (was: magnesium)

2007-09-18 Thread David Rastall
On Sep 18, 2007, at 5:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point remains: name one piece of solo lute music ever composed for a concert-hall. Entire collections of music for Dance exist with the music given in lute tablature. My point still remains... ;-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Dance

[LUTE] Re: magnesium

2007-09-18 Thread Bruno Correia
Henk, Sorry to ask, but what this magnesium does on your fingers? Do you play the lute with nails and this magnesium? At that time I played the baroque lute without nails and I needed something to roughen my finger tops and came up with the following process: First I wash my hands