[LUTE] Steve Ramey

2008-11-09 Thread Edward Martin
My apologies to the list, but Steve did respond to my e-mail, but when I returned his note, it bounced once again. Steve, do you have a spam filter on, blocking my e-mails? Please e-mail me your phone number privately, and I will call you tomorrow night. Sorry once again to the list. ed Ed

[LUTE] Re: Eye-gore

2008-11-09 Thread Stephen Fryer
howard posner wrote: Might I suggest you try your spam filter first? I just set a filter to delete any incoming messages from his address. Now the only way I see any of his postings is if someone else replies to and quotes one of his 'messages.' So please don't reply to him - I don't want

[LUTE] Eye-gore

2008-11-09 Thread howard posner
On Nov 9, 2008, at 3:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Look, if I wanted to read this kind of crap, I'd frequent the > classical >guitar list. This makes this list not worth it for me. With great >reluctance, I have to conclude that, put plainly, either igor > goes or I >go. Might I

[LUTE] Kapsberger

2008-11-09 Thread Bruno Correia
A question about Kabsberger: Which would be the most apropriate instrument to play his lute works (Intavolatura de lauto, 1611): a ten course lute or an archlute? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Look, if I wanted to read this kind of crap, I'd frequent the > classical >guitar list. This makes this list not worth it for me. With great >reluctance, I have to conclude that, put plainly, either igor > goes or I >go. >Ji

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 9, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Henry Villca wrote: > Hello!! thank you so much my dear... at last there is > someone bold >enough to tell the truth about home videos Tell me, my dear, are you bold enough to make one...? DR [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see li

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread Edward Martin
Jim, I can see that Igor's postings really bother you. Rather than leaving the list, merely delete his messages, and then you will not be bothered. Please do not leave the list because of his remarks. You can simply delete his listings, and not be a part of it. ed At 03:56 PM 11/9/2008 -08

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread jcabraham
Look, if I wanted to read this kind of crap, I'd frequent the classical guitar list. This makes this list not worth it for me. With great reluctance, I have to conclude that, put plainly, either igor goes or I go. Jim Abraham On Nov 9, 2008 6:42pm, "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread igor .
Why don't you smile a little bit then ? On the video you look like playing " In darknesse let me dwell "! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Chacona for dummies

2008-11-09 Thread igor .
As we all know word Chacona comes from the word Chacarera, and if look closer to the charango player in the movie we'll see: rule no.1: do not play the rasgueado from the arm ! [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HDU757tuUY&feature=related -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread David Tayler
For me the "truth" is I don't go up to performers after the concert and tell them where the mistakes were, or give an instant critique :) Why should video be different? I rejoice in the fact that I learn something everytime I see or hear another person perform. dt At 01:46 PM 11/9/2008, you

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Henry Villca
Hello!! thank you so much my dear... at last there is someone bold enough to tell the truth about home videos xxx --- On Sun, 11/9/08, igor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: igor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute To: "Omer katzi

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread David Tayler
I like the performance, but the fast notes are slower relative to the tempo. Although I know that bringing up the prevailing beat, then borrowing from the previous beat for the smallest notes will give more energy to the piece, on some level I can't do it. I think it is an interesting technique,

[LUTE] Re: figuetas

2008-11-09 Thread howard posner
So, is the angel in the upper left of this panel from the Sistine Chapel giving the prophet Zechariah the fig? And did Michelangelo give Zechariah Pope Julius II's face? http://www.abcgallery.com/M/michelangelo/michelangelo49.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Stephen Arndt
Igor wrote: "Valery,an average amateur ,should keep his Bach for himself i think." If Valery is an average amateur, then I shall spend the rest of my amateur life striving to attain averageness. I am still far from it, but his videos inspire me to keep working. Thank you, Valery. Stephen Arnd

[LUTE] Re: Videos from the lute list- was: Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Daniel Winheld
Wow- what a lot of shouting on the old lute list this morning- but I was inspired to track down and listen to Val's wonderful performance of the Bach. My congratulations & gratitude for such beautiful playing- such a reflectively meditative interpretation- very calming and mood enhancing. Beau

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Hey Rob, I should have to go through an "exorcism" ? ;-) Even my first name is Valéry (could also be a russian name), nothing to do with Igor (and remember I was not the only one mentionned with kind words...) LOL ! V. - Original Message - From: "Rob MacKillop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

[LUTE] Re: Videos from the lute list- was: Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Donatella Galletti
I think we should consider videos as being together talking in the same room, and at a certain time someone takes the instrument and plays, an enjoyable experience, it's a friend's playing gist, not a lecture. How many people are always willing to listen to lectures and how many to listen to fr

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Rob MacKillop
Maybe Igor is Val's evil self? It is not unknown for critics to attack their own work under the guise of another name. Val, reveal yourself! Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread tiorba
I'm watching outside my window. It's the sunset of a sunny day of November: it begins to be a bit cold, and, as usual, fog is going to hide the top of the city tower (hope not the whole cathedral). I'm sure Merula could see exactly the same panorama, and perhaps smell the same p

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Oh pas de problème pour moi Jean-Marie, j'ignore... (et cela me fait sourire mais pitié aussi, mais bon...) (No problem JM, I do ignore... and makes me smile but have pity too) Val ;-) - Original Message - From: "Jean-Marie Poirier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute" Sent: Sunday, Novembe

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread jcabraham
No, I think please remove him from the list. Jim On Nov 9, 2008 11:43am, "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My apologies to all. > > I'll do the same as last year : live you alone here. > > > > Moronski > > -- > > > > > > To get on or

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Rob MacKillop
No, I was being genuine. The same goes for Trond, Danny, Roman, Arto, and all the others. They all have those magic moments where trying stops and being takes over. It might be one moment in a whole video, or it might indeed be the whole video. Same goes for my students, some of them

[LUTE] Steve Ramey

2008-11-09 Thread Edward Martin
I am sorry to bother the list with this, but I have sent e-mails to Steve Ramey, and they bounce. Does anyone have a current e-mail address for Steve? Thanks, ed Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202 To get on or off

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread vance wood
It is acceptable to critique someone else's playing but when that critique goes to a point where it is more a personal attack, mean and destructive, it becomes incumbent upon the critic to display his/her own ability and show all of us how he/she would play. In short Igor, put up or shut up. V

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread igor .
I didn't adress nobody as a "moron" here , which is dirty and rude. I only think that using frase " open sound " is a moronic . Is that reason to be banned ? Moronskiewitz -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Omer katzir
Yep... it's really annoying. was fun at first, but he keep saying stupid things... I wonder why there are no smart trolls... On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Are Vidar Boye Hansen wrote: Wayne, please remove this Igor guy from the list as soon as possible. Are There are moments when Val's pla

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Are Vidar Boye Hansen
Wayne, please remove this Igor guy from the list as soon as possible. Are > >> There are moments when Val's playing has moved me, and left me > thinking, 'Why can't I play like that?' >>> > > you must be a comedian or something ?! > > Igor Moronski > > -- > > > To get

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Welcome back igor. We were all missing your subtle sense of humour sooo much ! JMP === 09-11-2008 14:44:20 === > > Not bed ! " desafinado " but in time ! They should definitely go for > more if " open sound " > -- > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http:

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread Edward Martin
Fantastic! ed At 08:05 AM 11/9/2008 -0500, Roman Turovsky wrote: >Check out Merula's Ciaccona in ET (Il Giardino)- >http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrZlpdlxp0 > >Awesome. >RT > > >- Original Message - From: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" >Sent: Sunday, Nov

[LUTE] Re: Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Turovsky
Check out Merula's Ciaccona in ET (Il Giardino)- http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=bHrZlpdlxp0 Awesome. RT - Original Message - From: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:02 AM Subject: [LUTE] Merula Ciaccona Next up in mea

[LUTE] Re: Sting shows how to play the Lute

2008-11-09 Thread Omer katzir
Ohh man... that was a good one. STING SUCKS On Nov 9, 2008, at 2:48 PM, igor . wrote: Now,You all should learn how to play ! [1]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7714354.stm -- References 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7714354.stm To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Sting shows how to play the Lute

2008-11-09 Thread igor .
Now,You all should learn how to play ! [1]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7714354.stm -- References 1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7714354.stm To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Omer katzir
Wow, troll in Lute group... what's next...? woman as a US president ? On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:16 PM, igor . wrote: "the sound was really open " !! some more stupid comments ? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread igor .
"the sound was really open " !! some more stupid comments ? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread David Tayler
I liked the Bach, especially because the sound was really open. dt At 02:23 AM 11/9/2008, you wrote: >Valery,an average amateur ,should keep his Bach for himself i think. >Showing it publicly is too exhibionistic and pretentious . >-- > > >To get on or off this list see list informati

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Yes Igor, again you're right ! (I don't think I'm right answering a troll...) Val ;-))) - Original Message - From: "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "LuteNet list" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

[LUTE] Merula Ciaccona

2008-11-09 Thread David Tayler
Next up in meantone is the Merula Ciaccona [1]http://www.vimeo.com/2165748 youtube [2]http://tinyurl.com/6mler9 The revelation for me is how different the different keys sound, going just from D major to C major. Major character shift, yet still very consonant. dt -- Refere