[LUTE] Re: Late Dowland to 9 or 10 courses?

2008-12-02 Thread David Tayler
The Galliard to Lachrimae is nice, the solos in LoST, the La Mia Barbera--needs reconstruction, that one, the beautiful solo in Tresor D'Orphee. I think are are one or two more. I like the "in Nomine" on at least 8 courses. Sempre Dolens, is nice to have the low F, and of course the passionate p

[LUTE] Re: Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread Michael Fink
Actually, if you use the quill in a "historically correct" way, it will not affect the thumb at all. Vladimir Ivanoff writes ("Invitation to the fifteenth-century plectrum lute" in _Performance on Lute, Guitar, and Vihuela_, ed. by Victor Coelho, Cambridge UP, 1977 -- p.9): "Numerous iconographical

[LUTE] Re: Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:34 PM 12/2/2008, David van Ooijen wrote: >Now there are many refinements to the above summary, but for starters >it should answer your question: if you want to play 'historically' >with quill, you're stuck in the Middle Ages. A fine time to be stuck >in with lots of wonderful music. Not a bad

[LUTE] Re: Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread Stuart Walsh
David van Ooijen wrote: A very general summary could be that a quill is fine for single line medieval music, occasional strumming in a lively dance or a strummed chord here and there. That would be done till about 1500. Around then fingers took over to play polyphony. Did Arthur recently menti

[LUTE] Re: ok...need some more help...

2008-12-02 Thread Ed Durbrow
I bought Django and ran it under Virtual Windows. It seems to do everything, but as usual with such programs there is quite a learning curve, plus the whole Windows thing to learn. I haven't used it for a year or two so maybe Roman or others would be better able to offer comments on it. I

[LUTE] Re: Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread Lex van Sante
Hi Neil, Thumb in or out is a less important issue than is normally thought. John Dowland is known to have changed from thumb in to thumb out during the course of his career. I personally play thumb in but one should see a player like Nigel North who is the best proof of what can be done wit

[LUTE] Re: Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread Guy Smith
For examples of plectrum lute, look for recordings by Crawford Young. It's his specialty. AFAIK, there's nothing explicitly written for plectrum lute. The people I know generally create their own arrangements. Guy -Original Message- From: Narada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, D

[LUTE] Re: Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread David van Ooijen
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Narada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since I bought my lute some 3 years ago now I have constantly struggled > with the thumb in technique, it feels very uncomfortable and awkward > even after many hours of practice. I was fortunate sometime ago to > meet Ja

[LUTE] Thumb In or Quill Pick

2008-12-02 Thread Narada
Greetings, One or the collective wisdom. Some months ago I remember reading a brief discussion on the forum regarding the use of quill tips for `plectrums', which due to certain "age" problems has got me wondering. Since I bought my lute some 3 years ago now I have constant

[LUTE] Monteverdi: Si dolce è'l tormento, another lute solo

2008-12-02 Thread wikla
Some time ago (half a year) I published this piece as a soprano lute solo - intabulation and an unpolished video play - see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/own/Intabs/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kFxMnbZJsQ Some days ago I played also a version for the 10-course "real lute" http:/

[LUTE] Re: Late Dowland to 9 or 10 courses?

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Winheld
And specifically, the Galliard to Lachrimae. If you consider at least some of the lute parts in LOST to be solos, then yes (9 course) Martin Shepherd has it all nailed down on his website and/or the Dowland site. Dan -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs

[LUTE] Re: Late Dowland to 9 or 10 courses?

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Winheld
If you consider at least some of the lute parts in LOST to be solos, then yes (9 course) Martin Shepherd has it all nailed down on his website and/or the Dowland site. Dan http://www.johndowland.co.uk/DowlandsLutes.htm http://www.johndowland.co.uk/ >Dear collective wisdom, > >are there

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Miguel Serdoura's Lute Method

2008-12-02 Thread Jim Abraham
I have the first version, from the French lute society, which I think is almost identical to the new, English, version, and I think it is excellent. Jim On 12/2/08, Ken Brodkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm wondering if anyone has had a chance to go through Miguel Serdoura's > Baro

[LUTE] Late Dowland to 9 or 10 courses?

2008-12-02 Thread wikla
Dear collective wisdom, are there any (late) J. Dowland pieces for 10 (or 9) course lute? I remember that Robert's "Variete" has some, but those perhaps are not by John? Any advice appreciated, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admi

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Winheld
>Or maybe the "Panama Red" temperament:-) Strictly San Francisco, and only the higher octaves. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Guy Smith
Or maybe the "Panama Red" temperament:-) -Original Message- From: Daniel Winheld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:32 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator Only if last October was the Victorian age. We're nostalgic here in Berkeley,

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Winheld
Only if last October was the Victorian age. We're nostalgic here in Berkeley, but it only goes back to the 1960's. That would be "Free Speech & Tear Gas" temperament. >perhaps it was last tuned in the victorian age? I like the beer part. Definitely improves the flavor of the thirds. >Should be

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Winheld
> >Even the piano (Ivers & Pond, 1906- their "Upright >>Grand") is tuned to temperament one of my students calls "Victorian >>Meantone" Whoops should have seen that one coming! From what the piano tuner told me, I gathered that it is one of a variety of "well" temperaments, similar to what J.S.

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Indeed. At 11:08 AM 12/2/2008, Omer katzir wrote: >You know you're all crazy, right...? > >On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: > >>At 10:51 AM 12/2/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>On Tue, Dec 2, 2008, "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> Just out of curiosity,

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Omer katzir
You know you're all crazy, right...? On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: At 10:51 AM 12/2/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 2, 2008, "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Just out of curiosity, what exactly is "Victorian Meantone?" perhaps it was last tu

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:51 AM 12/2/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Tue, Dec 2, 2008, "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Just out of curiosity, what exactly is "Victorian Meantone?" > >perhaps it was last tuned in the victorian age? > >Should be strongly related to nickel-beer pianoroll meantone.

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread DEMERY
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008, "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Just out of curiosity, what exactly is "Victorian Meantone?" perhaps it was last tuned in the victorian age? Should be strongly related to nickel-beer pianoroll meantone. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:34 AM 12/2/2008, Daniel Winheld wrote: >Even the piano (Ivers & Pond, 1906- their "Upright >Grand") is tuned to temperament one of my students calls "Victorian >Meantone" Just out of curiosity, what exactly is "Victorian Meantone?" Best, Eugene To get on or off this list see list info

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Daniel Winheld
>Hi Dan, no I don't think it's an illusion. Tuning ET is very hard, >because the major thirds are already right at the limit of what the >ear will accept (many would say, beyond) so if they're just the >tiniest bit too wide it sounds dreadful. But with meantone >temperaments, the major thirds

[LUTE] Re: Fret Calculator

2008-12-02 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi Dan, no I don't think it's an illusion. Tuning ET is very hard, because the major thirds are already right at the limit of what the ear will accept (many would say, beyond) so if they're just the tiniest bit too wide it sounds dreadful. But with meantone temperaments, the major thirds can

[LUTE] stolen violin

2008-12-02 Thread tom
Dear all, Yesterday evening (29-11-08) my trial-violin and 3 bows were stolen while travelling from Dordrecht to The Hague after a concert. The violin is labelled Georg Klotz, Mittenwald, 1770 and has a lion head-scroll and a rather large corpus. The bows are: a modern bow (unlabelled, attributed

[LUTE] Re: Dowland, P#17

2008-12-02 Thread Sauvage Valéry
Vimeo does not have Youtube limitation to 10 mn and 100 Mo. I uploaded a video of 141 Mo and 20mn on Vimeo. Val. -Message d'origine- De : Rob MacKillop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : mardi 2 décembre 2008 09:09 À : Daniel Winheld Cc : lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet :

[LUTE] Re: Dowland, P#17

2008-12-02 Thread Rob MacKillop
Hi Dan, Not sure why you split it up into three sections...if the file was too big, did you convert the wav file into mp3 before uploading? I don't know how the mac system works...it seems to me you must play around with your software a bit more. You can obviously play well, so it