[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
David, I agree with your preferences, especially about the diapassons. FWIW, here are some personal guidelines that have crystalized through the years, and this in relation to tablatures only, I'm not talking about grand staff or notation: Landscape view, to make the score easily readable o

[LUTE] tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread David van Ooijen
These days there are many software packages enabling everybody to produce tablatures. Many of us do, for free on our websites or in home-made inexpensive editions. Not all of these tablatures are as beautiful, or as easy to read. For the free or inexpensive editions that's fine with me; if the cont

[LUTE] Re: Lilypond da Milano

2008-12-08 Thread alexander rakov
Just wanted to mention, some of PDF readers automatically update the output, i. e. after first creating .ly file, i look at the .pdf output on OKULAR (new KDE pdf reader). If i have to make any repairs, i do, and run the lilypond again (just keeping a tiny terminal window open). OK

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
Hm, >Landscape view, to make the score easily readable on the screen (or steady on >the music stand) I prefer portrait and I never play from the screen >Do not repeat rhytmic signs until they actually change value (much easier to >read in all respects, also for prima-vista) For me this is v

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread howard posner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: > Would you strike through everything in a book? It would be a great improvement in many books. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
Yeah! But jokes aside, if one would actually take a look at, and play from tablature on the lines, one could easily see what I'm trying to say. The arguement that its easy(er) to read should hold ground quite nicely! G. - Original Message - From: "howard posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
-Original Message- From: G. Crona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:34 PM To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines Yeah! >But jokes aside, if one would actually take a look at, and play from tablature >on the lines, one could e

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: Hm, Me too, mmm. I don't mean to "answer" Rainer here but will offer my responses to the same questions to show my differing taste. Landscape view, to make the score easily readable on the screen (or steady on the music stand) I p

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
Likewise. I can play OK from either, but I prefer tab between the lines, not on them. I doubt you can make a clearcut case for either; I think it's more a matter of preference/habit. Any tablature guidelines that you come up with need to accommodate the fact that different people are going to have

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
If you actually tried to play from it, I believe that you'd get my point. G. - Original Message - From: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines -Original Message- From: G. Cro

[LUTE] Re: Lilypond da Milano

2008-12-08 Thread alexander rakov
One more bit i did not think about: changed font to italic, more appropriate. http://www.4shared.com/dir/10890314/b1afbb12/Francesco.html \version "2.10.33" \header{ title = "Ricercar" opus = \markup {\small \italic "(N 52)"} composer = "Francesco da Milano" tagli

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread William Brohinsky
I think, maybe, we can skip the prejudicial ad-hominem remarks. I try to play from all kinds of tablature, and frankly, I find the in-the-line notation hardest. And, as my age increases (which can be said of all of us on this list: if you've figured a way to get younger as time progresses, please

[LUTE] tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Nightingale
Broefe we get ceiarrd aawy by gnaeerl stntetemas aubot how hnuams raed, mabye it's tmie for a brateh of senfciitic frseh air? See Feynman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZcpTTjjXY Let the wlid fmlae war sratt! Enjoy, Peter. the next auto-quote is: Education is what survives when what has bee

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
Sean, you and I seem to be somewhat more in agreement than me and Rainer who seem to be antipodic in this matter. pls. read between the lines... - Original Message - From: "Sean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: ta

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
Well, there you go. I can appreciate that. See, choice is good. That's if we are designing a program for our personal use. To design a standard for what we'd like to see from the published/outside, on-paper world gets more difficult. It may come about that tabs eventually get published in d

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread William Brohinsky
Question: If all lute tab publishing is standardized to one specific variety, based on some overarching consensus, what happens to the art of reading the other varieties? Won't we be setting ourselves up to become so wedded to one variety of TAB that there won't be anyone left in two generations (

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
Digital versions would be wonderful, although it does create some issues for a publisher who hopes to make enough money selling the edition to at least break even. FWIW, I also play early brass, and I love it when I can find ensemble pieces in Finale or what have you, rather than just a scanned i

[LUTE] Re: Lilypond da Milano

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Nightingale
It gets nicer all the time! I'm confident that if somebody really wanted to do so, suchbody could import and use Wayne's lute fonts in Lilypond. Peter. On Mon, 8 Dec 2008, alexander rakov wrote: > > One more bit i did not think about: changed font to italic, more > appropriate. > > http:

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
I just think we need the choice. We have half-a-loaf of choice and are wondering how we can better work w/ the publishing world. And that means the publishing world will start to work w/ our own software. That means we have to define our formats, expectations, prices and protections and then

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread howard posner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Peter Nightingale wrote: > > See Feynman: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZcpTTjjXY > Fascinating, captain. A prominent scientist offering two minutes of meaningless generalities without a single fact. Completely illogical. Yours truly. Mr. Spock -- To get on

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread tom
Hi, New to ther Lute list, and just acquired a Renaissance lute and had a wonderful lesson with Ed Martin last Thursday. I have been typesetting and transcribing music in Finale since 2000. I just acquired and registered Fronimo last night. What I am seeing in this thread are pleas for BOTH

[LUTE] Re: Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-08 Thread Ron Fletcher
I use Nylgut for my lutes for their longevity. It may not be recommended, but I wind all the spare string onto the peg, leaving very little over at the bridge. It has been my experience when a string has broken, either near the nut or the peg, there has been sufficient unused string to draw from

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Doc Rossi
For PDFs, Mac OSX has a built-in Print to PDF feature that works well. For Windows there are free virtual printers around that also work pretty well. I remember using one that had Pony in the name (sorry to be so vague). On Dec 8, 2008, at 9:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, New to t

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
However, I would approach any nylon monofilament as a temporary stopgap only. They are slippery. They are also rather hard and actually can scar necks, especially at the knots. Best luck, Eugene At 08:05 AM 12/6/2008, vance wood wrote: >Hi Omer: > >In a pinch you can substitute monofilament f

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 08:13 AM 12/6/2008, David van Ooijen wrote: >On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:05 PM, vance wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Omer: > > > > In a pinch you can substitute monofilament fishing line of appropriate > > gauge, 30 lbs test or better. > > > >Yes, I've done that and been there. Used nylon t

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
Hit Reply instead of Reply All... -Original Message- From: Guy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:02 PM To: 'Doc Rossi' Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines Word 2007 has a Save to PDF feature (introduced with that version, I think). Never

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Betsy Lahaussois
I switched to Mac from Windows, and could no longer use Fronimo("Bad Move!" said Francesco, when I asked him how I could use Fronimo on my new computer!) Thanks to someone's tip, I did download free from the internet "Cute PDF", which allowed me to transform Fronimo files into

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Leonard Williams
Portrait. New rhythm sign at a change or at a new line. I have some poorly edited publications in which a rhythm sign is redundantly introduced, and it just causes confusion. Consistency within a piece is perhaps the better rule: new sign only with a change of rhythm or line; or, all notes usin

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-08 Thread David van Ooijen
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as nylon musical instrument strings. You can also buy "carbon" > fishing line; monofilament fishing lines labeled as "fluorocarbon" > are of the same basic material marketed as "carbon" for musical > instrument string

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-08 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:02 PM 12/8/2008, David van Ooijen wrote: >On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Eugene C. Braig IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > as nylon musical instrument strings. You can also buy "carbon" > > fishing line; monofilament fishing lines labeled as "fluorocarbon" > > are of the same basic materia

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-08 Thread Edward Martin
Wouldn't it be great if gut trebles came in 50 meter reels? ed >When I was still on carbon (been there done that too) I used to buy it >in the fishing shop. All my friends did, or bought from me, as I >bought it on 50m reels. :-) > >David > > >-- >*** >David van Ooije

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-08 Thread demery
> 50m reels. :-) och laddie, just think o the size of such sheep! -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines, impossible!

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
And therein lies the problem. I have a copy of Rainer's Holborne edition (which is an impressive and valuable piece of scholarship). I'd love to have it in digital form so I could tinker with format and what have you, but I fully understand Rainer's reluctance to release his sources, which is why I