[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread Arto Wikla
On 26/01/13 22:38, William Samson wrote: I'll also ask the collective wisdom if they know of any solo Italian repertoire for this instrument before I go and make one. Well, I already made mine in the 1990's and web-published those in 2008. There is one Cazzati and a couple of Zannetis,

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread William Samson
And just to drop another rock in the crocodile pool, I'll just mention that there doesn't seem to be any obvious octave stringing on this instrument. I'll also ask the collective wisdom if they know of any solo Italian repertoire for this instrument before I go and make one. Bil

[LUTE] Re: Bransle Simple for guitarne et guiterne (Gervaise 1557)

2013-01-26 Thread WALSH STUART
On 26/01/2013 13:06, Pieter Van Tichelen wrote: Hello Monica, Stuart relates to some of the written sources in 16th century France - inventories of builders in Paris made when they died. Yes, I was just quoting the sources you mentioned in your email, Pieter. Some of

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread Rob MacKillop
Looks great. You'll have to make one, Bill... Rob www.robmackillop.net On 26 Jan 2013, at 18:50, William Samson wrote: > I came across this picture of a lute with 4 courses. Could this be one > of the lute-shaped guitars? > > [1]http://sdrv.ms/10Q9ifI > > Hope you can see this link

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
Absolutely. RT On 1/26/2013 1:50 PM, William Samson wrote: I came across this picture of a lute with 4 courses. Could this be one of the lute-shaped guitars? [1]http://sdrv.ms/10Q9ifI Hope you can see this link to my Skydrive. Bill -- References 1. http://sdrv.

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread William Samson
I came across this picture of a lute with 4 courses. Could this be one of the lute-shaped guitars? [1]http://sdrv.ms/10Q9ifI Hope you can see this link to my Skydrive. Bill -- References 1. http://sdrv.ms/10Q9ifI To get on or off this list see list information at http:

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread Monica Hall
Read the article. - Original Message - From: "howard posner" To: "Lutelist list" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:09 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Meucci gives a whole series of references which suppo

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy

2013-01-26 Thread howard posner
On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Monica Hall wrote: > Meucci gives a whole series of references which support his contention that > in Italian sources the terms chitarra or chitarrino refer to a small lute > whatever they may refer to in any other language. Amongst the latest of > these are - >

[LUTE] Saturday quotes

2013-01-26 Thread Ron Andrico
Amid all the discussion of strings and such, our Saturday morning quotes are posted. This week, Dowland and patronage. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-Dg Ron & Donna -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-Dg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-26 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Interesting questions. Let me first quote Belon entirely: "L'autre sorte de Lut est de moyenne grandeur, & plus commune que n'est le susdit: & est semblable `a une Guiterne, mais plus harmonieux, & beaucoup plus difficile `a sonner: & n'a que sept cordes non plus que nostre Gui

[LUTE] Re: 4 course guitar in Italy - was Calata de StrAmbotto

2013-01-26 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hello, Just another comment - even James Tyler in the "Early Mandolin" already points the way towards differentiation between lute-like gittern and mandore. I didn't exactly "invent" this view but I merely elaborated in the course of my research. (I must warn you that Tyler got confu

[LUTE] Re: Bransle Simple for guitarne et guiterne (Gervaise 1557)

2013-01-26 Thread Pieter Van Tichelen
Hello Monica, Stuart relates to some of the written sources in 16th century France - inventories of builders in Paris made when they died. Some of these inventories try to distinguish between "guiterne" and "guitarne" (spelling variations on these exist of course, losing the "n" f