[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Dan Winheld
Too bad, he would have been in great company: "Last of the Whorehouse Piano Players" - a CD of music by Ralph Sutton & Jay McShann. I think the young Albeniz had a few gigs in some seedy places as well. On 8/7/2013 11:45 PM, howard posner wrote: On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:28 PM, [1]t...@h

[LUTE] Re: colonel public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Kenyon
I thought that one was attributed to Joe Meek? Stephen On 7 Aug 2013, at 23:16, Leonard Williams wrote: I believe the criterion for judging good music from bad lies in the quote (also Ellington??): "If it sounds good, it is good." To get on or off this list see list information at http:/

[LUTE] Re: colonel public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread wayne cripps
This would apply to people who say music is bad when not played on gut strings, when played with period-inappropriate instruments, when played with the wrong kind of thumb, or played on a sax when they used clarinets in the old days. In the jazz world a lot of people argue about what is jazz a

[LUTE] Re: colonel public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Tobiah
I believe the criterion for judging good music from bad lies in the quote (also Ellington??): "If it sounds good, it is good." This is either tautology or useful advice for anyone in the habit of judging music by its smell. It's not a tautology. After all, I said so! To get on or off this

[LUTE] free places

2013-08-08 Thread Andrea Damiani
Hello everybody, I would like to inform that there are some free places in my lute class at Conservatorio Santa Cecilia, Rome Here the details. Andrea [1]http://www.conservatoriosantacecilia.it/ammissioni-ed-iscrizioni,120 8.html -- References 1. http://www.conservato

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Fryer
Why does it frighten you? Stephen Fryer On 07/08/2013 11:15 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: That's one scary thought. RT On 8/7/2013 10:28 PM, t...@heartistrymusic.com wrote: Why not lutes? Get the SCA involved! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmou

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
It doesn't, but I don't have any poles over 10' here. RT On 8/8/2013 4:55 PM, Stephen Fryer wrote: Why does it frighten you? Stephen Fryer On 07/08/2013 11:15 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: That's one scary thought. RT On 8/7/2013 10:28 PM, t...@heartistrymusic.com wrote: Why not lutes?

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Fryer
Well if you're afraid to get that close, you must be pretty scared of them. Stephen Fryer On 08/08/2013 2:00 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't, but I don't have any poles over 10' here. RT On 8/8/2013 4:55 PM, Stephen Fryer wrote: Why does it frighten you? Stephen Fryer On 07/08/2013

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
No, it's just the stench that is insufferable. RT On 8/8/2013 5:23 PM, Stephen Fryer wrote: Well if you're afraid to get that close, you must be pretty scared of them. Stephen Fryer On 08/08/2013 2:00 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: It doesn't, but I don't have any poles over 10' here. RT O

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
For those who don't speak American, and don't know American mores: SCA is the Society for Creative Anachronism, and it has nothing to do with NYSCA, which is the New York State Council on the Arts. The latter is a venerable institution that funds arts here, and the former is group of uncultured bo

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Fryer
Ah, I take it then that you don't have a real, valid reason. Stephen Fryer On 08/08/2013 2:25 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's just the stench that is insufferable. RT On 8/8/2013 5:23 PM, Stephen Fryer wrote: Well if you're afraid to get that close, you must be pretty scared of them.

[LUTE] Re: home recording

2013-08-08 Thread William Samson
Hi David, Can you recall what frequency range(s) is(are) responsible for bringing out the 'plicky' sound? I sometimes have trouble with my Zoom H2 in that respect and it would be good to get a steer as to where to attack it with the EQ in my software (Audacity). At the moment I cu

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Braig, Eugene
. . . Many (certainly not all) somehow believing that assuming a bad cockney accent; whacking each other with wooden weapons while feigning the inability to use struck limbs; and listening to modern Irish, Scottish, or English folk songs strummed by steel-strung acoustic instruments somehow rela

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
My sentiment exactly. RT On 8/8/2013 6:12 PM, Braig, Eugene wrote: . . . Many (certainly not all) somehow believing that assuming a bad cockney accent; whacking each other with wooden weapons while feigning the inability to use struck limbs; and listening to modern Irish, Scottish, or English

[LUTE] Re: home recording

2013-08-08 Thread David Tayler
For what it is, the Zoom H2 is a decent sounding box, and very handy. I use it for teaching classes on how to get started in AV. But you cannot really improve the sound with EQ and a notch filter, the sound of the lute is too complex. What happens is as you fix the sound, you add col

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread David Tayler
I think this is an interesting question, and I will risk posting an honest answer. The answer depends on who is "The General Public". I divide the groups as: the 200 countries of YouTube distribution, Academics, other lute players, people in the Early Music scene, and modern musician

[LUTE] Re: home recording

2013-08-08 Thread Rafael Muñoz Rodríguez
Thanks to all who have commented. David, if some noise is inevitable in preamps of this category, I'll keep the Focusrite. Regarding the matched pair of microphones, I still doubt among The Studio Projects B1 and the Oktava mk 012. I like the "roundness" of the sound provided by the

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Bruno Correia
Dear David, Didn't get your point. As you say, the general public is pretty diverse, ok that's fine. Then, you change the focus to the lack of skill of today's lutenists... What does it mean exactly? We are so bad that we don't deserve to be listened? That's probably why people

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread tom
Regarding "Society for Creative Anacronism" (SCA): I see, and resonate with, your sentiments here. BUT - It's MARKETING! AND - it's raising awareness amongst the "less educated", but INTERESTED miniscule fraction of the public who COULD be attracted to attend YOUR concerts. OK - I'll agree

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
On 8/8/2013 7:57 PM, David Tayler wrote: I mention this because of the puzzling stories about people who can play the keyboard and transpose and so on. That is an entry level skill, and a requirement. Really??? Most conservatory trained pianists I know are trained to play what's writt

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Roman Turovsky
Marketing is not necessarily good for culture. Especially marketing to the lowest possible denominator. Culture is supposed to raise the listener/spectator to its level, not to descend to his. Marketing Fuenllana to SCA is hopeless, fulile, and amounts to the proverbial pearls before swine.

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Sean Smith
Does it even rise to Quixotic? On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Marketing is not necessarily good for culture. Especially marketing to the lowest possible denominator. Culture is supposed to raise the listener/spectator to its level, not to descend to his. Marketing Fue

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread r.turov...@gmail.com
Probably not One could market Mark Wheeler to them SCA, but I think his own aspirations are higher than that, his appropriate style notwithstanding. RT On 8/8/2013 10:28 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Does it even rise to Quixotic? On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:17 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Marketing i

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
I must extend my sincerest thanks to ye olde SCA. I once went to a Renaissance "Faire" with a fellow modern musician (it was his suggestion). He said, "I'll bet you're happy. This is one place you'll see plenty of lutes in action." I wagered him a very hefty sum that we would not see

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Christopher Wilke
Having taken these keyboard classes, and speaking as someone with a doctoral degree in historical plucked instruments, (ya know, lute, theorbo, baroque guitar and all that jazz) I can say that the considerable keyboard requirements were practically useless in helping with things like

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Ron Andrico
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:57:37 -0700 > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: vidan...@sbcglobal.net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness > As far as other Early Music musicians, sadly, but undeniably, lute > players are regarded as the worst musicians. Bottom of the B

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread Braig, Eugene
Huzzah! From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Christopher Wilke [chriswi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:51 PM To: Braig, Eugene; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

[LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread gary
Kind of a World Wrestling Federation view of the renaissance. Gary On 8/8/2013 6:12 PM, Braig, Eugene wrote: . . . Many (certainly not all) somehow believing that assuming a bad cockney accent; whacking each other with wooden weapons while feigning the inability to use struck limbs; and list

[LUTE] Re: colonel public Lute awareness

2013-08-08 Thread gary
I'm actually abetter musician than I sound. Gary On 2013-08-08 11:16, Tobiah wrote: I believe the criterion for judging good music from bad lies in the quote (also Ellington??): "If it sounds good, it is good." This is either tautology or useful advice for anyone in the habit of judging mu