[LUTE] Re: playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Leonard Williams
Not to do with the frets, but it appears that this five-course lute is strung in octaves on 3, 4 and 5, though 3 is questionable (perhaps a very false string!). Leonard Williams On 9/14/15, 10:15 AM, "Martin Shepherd" wrote: > Dear Collective Wisdom, > > > > Can anyone help me out with the

[LUTE] Re: [SPAM?] Re: playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread John Mardinly
What bothers me is the left hand of the guy on the right. Ugh! This was how many centuries before thalidomide? Oh, it is a painting, not a photograph. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Principal Materials Nanoanalysis Engineer EMail: [1]john.mardi...@asu.edu Cell: [2]408-921-3253

[LUTE] Re: playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 2015-09-14 11:33 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: I don't think those are frets, as their lengths make no sense. I can only think they must be marks to show the positions of notes. I'd agree with you there. The artist went to great pains to show that the rose is three-dimensional, so I doubt he

[LUTE] Re: playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Winheld
Martin- I knew you had to be familiar with that painting. I've also wondered about the frets stopping at the 11 semitone, and the weirdness of that possibly "semi-diatonic" short fret. In this on-line reproduction they sure don't look like ebony, or even black- but they still look more like r

[LUTE] playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Martin Shepherd
The other problem with the black "frets" on the Costa painting is they can't be ebony, can they? Not sure when people in Italy would first have had access to ebony. M __ [1]Avast logo This email has been

[LUTE] Re: playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Martin Shepherd
Yes, Dan, I do know the painting. I don't think those are frets, as their lengths make no sense. I can only think they must be marks to show the positions of notes. M - Original Message - From: "Dan Winheld" To: "Martin Shepherd" ; Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:16 PM Subject:

[LUTE] Re: playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Winheld
Really? No iconography? On 9/14/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lorenzo_Costa_-_Un_concerto_(National_Gallery,_London).jpg Surely you've seen this painting by Lorenzo Costa; 5 course lute with three ebony frets beyond the gut frets. About 100 years before Mathia Mason. But, like 7 c

[LUTE] Re: BWV 995 tablature facs

2015-09-14 Thread Ivar-Nicholas Fojas
Hi Lucas, The books you are looking for is Paolo Cherici's JSBACH opere complete per liuto and Schule fur die Barocklaute by FJ Giesbert. There is also a dissertation on this MS by Robert Grossman. I was unsuccessful in finding a digital copy of the Leipzig MS myself when I

[LUTE] BWV 995 tablature facs

2015-09-14 Thread Lucas Harris
Hello, friends, Would someone be able to direct me to a digital copy of the facsimile of BWV 995 (suite in g minor)? It's the Leipzig lute tablature ms. I'm looking for. Many thanks! - Lucas -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.

[LUTE] playing above the frets

2015-09-14 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Collective Wisdom, Can anyone help me out with the source materials on this topic? There is (as far as I know) no evidence for wooden body frets in iconography, and it seems they were not used until late in the 16th century (they are mentioned by Dowland, who says they were

[LUTE] D-B Mus.ms. 40165

2015-09-14 Thread Andreas Schlegel
Dear collected wisdom Has somebody this source and could I get a copy of it? Thanks a lot for any support! Andreas To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html