[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

I think the music for the DEvils was all arranged by Peter Maxwell DAvies - so may not have been "historically" informed. Original Message From: sfar...@gmail.com Date: 06/09/2017 19:44 To: "Rainer" Cc: Subj: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall I've always rather liked this scene from Ken Russell's T

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

How about "Vatel" with UmaThurman and Gerard Depardieu? Okay, the plot takes place in Louis XIV's days and the major part of the music is by Rameau, but hey, it's well done! Mathias __ Gesendet mit der [1]Telekom M

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Pride and Prejudice 2005 - luteless, but the ball scenes and costumes were well-researched. I once played with a gambist whose instrument had been made for one of the Errol Flynn movies. On 09/06/2017 07:16 PM, Edward C. Yong wrote: Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind:

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

More good dramas with decent use of period music: David Munrow's music for the BBC productions of "Henry VIII and His Six Wives" (1972), and "Elizabeth R" (1971), as well as his uncredited contributions to Michel Legrand's score for Richard Lester's film "The Three Musketeers" (1973) [screenpl

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Good dramas with proper period music that come to mind: 1) The 1994 film Nostradamus. It had a scene of a country theatre, and the music accompanying was Susato, with an onstage band of instruments (unfortunately including a metal flute). Soundtrack also included Josquin, etc. 2)

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Neumann wrote: and though there are no original lute pieces in it, the soundtrack contains many real lutes. (quoting the film "Bill" 2015) The duelling banjos track, with lute was a little bit relevant as well as kinda funny. Not entirely my favorite though. 6.5 out of 10. G.

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

I suppose this one falls in the plain nonsence cathegory? Rainer wrote: Good point. Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder) mathematics appears in a movie it is normally plain nonsense. Of course, this doesn't matter for non-mathematicians (or physicists). Ra

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

On 06.09.2017 22:05, Tristan von Neumann wrote: How about "A Serious Man"? :) https://elkjerkyforthesoul.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mathematics6.jpg Looks OK :) By the way, does anybody out there know if Beethoven really couldn't multiply? I don't trust the Internet, I have 3 or 4 biographie

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

How about "A Serious Man"? :) https://elkjerkyforthesoul.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/mathematics6.jpg Am 06.09.2017 um 21:34 schrieb Rainer: Of course, this doesn't matter for non-mathematicians (or physicists). Rainer OF course, I am a mathematician :) To get on or off this list see l

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

"A Little Chaos" (court of France's Louis' XIV, directed by the late Alan Rickman, 2014) would have been SOOO amazing had they invested in a real french style baroque lute player. Instead, the 'lute' music cameo ruined the film pour moi. -- To get on or off this list see list infor

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

On 06.09.2017 21:44, Martin Shepherd wrote: Yes - you've reminded me that one of the defects of the otherwise excellent "Inspector Morse" series was the total lack of accuracy (to put it mildly) in the portrayal of what academics do, how they teach, and the nature of their subject matter, whet

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

I've always rather liked this scene from Ken Russell's The Devils. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcNkzs8bn0 Aside from the fictional elements, any thoughts as to authenticity of performance? On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Rainer <[2]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Yes - you've reminded me that one of the defects of the otherwise excellent "Inspector Morse" series was the total lack of accuracy (to put it mildly) in the portrayal of what academics do, how they teach, and the nature of their subject matter, whether it be cell biology, history or psychology

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Yes, they used Tielman Susato for the dance numbers. There was a lot of other music not listed in IMDB though. And lots of lutes. On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: On 06.09.2017 21:05, G. C. wrote: I see what you mean by Elgar

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

On 06.09.2017 20:54, Sean Smith wrote: I think it’s safe to say we pay attention to details of movies when they overlap our areas of specific interest. Good point. Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder) mathematics appears in a movie it is normally plain nonsense. Of c

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

On 06.09.2017 21:05, G. C. wrote: I see what you mean by Elgar and Mozart though :) [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127536/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 Rondeas I and VII from "Dansereyr" 1551 Shudder Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.e

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Yes, I have a friend who is a retired airline pilot and he says similar things about scenes showing the wrong type of cokpits. Nancy I think it’s safe to say we pay attention to details of movies when they overlap our areas of specific interest. When I started doing optics I suddenly noticed t

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

At least when I visited the Santiago de Compostela Cathedral I was able to purchase a CD of the organ, performing Joaquin Sanchez, Domingo Losada, Gabriel Manalt and Manuel Gesto Garcia. On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Martin Shepherd <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: That really i

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Also of course Morales and Guerrero. When I visited the organist was playing Widor's toccata. Monica Original Message From: john.mardi...@asu.edu Date: 06/09/2017 18:57 To: "Tristan von Neumann" Cc: "lutelist Net" Subj: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall More than movies: I recently visited the Sevil

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

That really is appalling when you consider the great riches of Spanish music by Juan del Encina, Cabezon, Guerrero, Victoria, et al - sorry some of these might be Portuguese! M On 06/09/2017 20:57, John Mardinly wrote: More than movies: I recently visited the Sevilla Cathedral, where

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

I see what you mean by Elgar and Mozart though :) [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127536/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7 On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:54 PM, G. C. <[2]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote: The tv-series "The Tudor's" had fine authentic golden age music. So did Elizabeth

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

More than movies: I recently visited the Sevilla Cathedral, where Alonso Mudarra had been Canon from 1546-1580, and the electronic self-guide devices had all background music from Handel's Messiah and Xerxes. No Spanish renaissance music. Appalling. On Sep 6, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Trist

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

The tv-series "The Tudor's" had fine authentic golden age music. So did Elizabeth I and it's sequel [1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414055/?ref_=fn_al_ch_1a G. -- References 1. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414055/?ref_=fn_al_ch_1a To get on or off this list see list informati

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

I think it’s safe to say we pay attention to details of movies when they overlap our areas of specific interest. When I started doing optics I suddenly noticed that every characters' eyeglasses were of neutral power unless thick ones were part of the plot. It may not ruin the show but I mentall

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

How does Benjamin Britten's ‘Gloriana' fall in this discussion? On Sep 6, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Martin Shepherd <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk> wrote: It's not just music. A friend of mine who is something of an expert in historical costume has a thing or two to say about some horrors -

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

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[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

It's not just music.  A friend of mine who is something of an expert in historical costume has a thing or two to say about some horrors - though costume is sometimes done very well.  Another friend who makes historical glass will tell you that film makers won't tolerate historical (clear) glass

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Thank you, that was a pretty convincing explanation. And also very sad... Am 06.09.2017 um 19:24 schrieb Ron Andrico: >Movies mess up the music and/or historical facts nearly all the time... I wonder why that is? - on behalf of Tristan von Neumann In my experience, film directo

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

On 06/09/2017 19:14, Rainer wrote: Tous les Matins du Monde? Rainer French film shot in the early 90s about Marin Marais and Sainte-Colombe. Jordi Savall made a small fortune from the soundtrack which was also released on CD. Unfortunately, from what I can remember, the attempts of some of

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Tous les Matins du Monde? Rainer On 06.09.2017 19:01, mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Surely it has to be "Tous le matins du mond"? The music was authentic but the plot was not. Monica Original Message From: rads.bera_g...@t-online.de Date: 06/09/2017 16:25 To: "lutelist Net" Subj: [LUTE

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Surely it has to be "Tous le matins du mond"? The music was authentic but the plot was not. Monica Original Message From: rads.bera_g...@t-online.de Date: 06/09/2017 16:25 To: "lutelist Net" Subj: [LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall On 06.09.2017 18:07, Tristan von Neumann wrote: > Which is everyone's

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

LOL. Thank you for that outrageous example of what I was talking about :) But seriously, any good Renaissance music in movies? "Your Highness" is a fantasy spoof, yet it had nice authentic Renaissance dances in the party scene, though nobody would have complained about anything in a fantasy mo

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Le Roi Danse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMvpvDjFvHA > On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > Hello Rainer, and fellow cinephile Lutists, > > This is a long standing topic of mine... > Movies mess up the music and/or hi

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

On 06.09.2017 18:07, Tristan von Neumann wrote: Which is everyone's favourite Period Movie when it comes to well placed authentic music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTwkQEHBUQk Rainer To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Hello Ido, this might be of interest to you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYiYd9RcK5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-rejaoP7U Cheers! Tristan Am 06.09.2017 um 18:18 schrieb Ido Shdaimah: Still waiting for a movie that uses historical forms of English, with correct pronunciation

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Still waiting for a movie that uses historical forms of English, with correct pronunciation. Wouldn't it be wonderful to experience the Canterbury Tales visually whilst hearing the original Middle English? On Sep 6, 2017 19:08, "Tristan von Neumann" <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wro

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

Hello Rainer, and fellow cinephile Lutists, This is a long standing topic of mine... Movies mess up the music and/or historical facts nearly all the time... I wonder why that is? There's really good and authentic music for almost all purposes available, yet the makers choose some pseudo historic

[LUTE] Re: Wolf Hall

A bit late (after 2.5 years) :) - I seem to have missed it in 2015. I wonder if the serial really was such a success. I have watched (in German) all 6 episodes on the German/French [sic!] TV channel Arte recently. Apparently at least 50% of the population suffered from depression in those day

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

Well - that's useful - I didn't know that. This is checking whether it works. Original Message From: howardpos...@ca.rr.com Date: 06/09/2017 9:43 To: "LutList" Subj: [LUTE] Re: Shorter emails And while we’re on protocol, if you hit “reply all” and then eliminate all the addresses other

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Ralf Mattes wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 06. September 2017 11:43 CEST, howard posner > schrieb: > >> And while we’re on protocol, if you hit “reply all” and then eliminate all >> the addresses other than the list’s, the other listers don’t get your >> message m

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

Am Mittwoch, 06. September 2017 11:43 CEST, howard posner schrieb: > And while we’re on protocol, if you hit “reply all” and then eliminate all > the addresses other than the list’s, the other listers don’t get your message > more than once. That problem is easy to solve: the list admin w

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

And while we’re on protocol, if you hit “reply all” and then eliminate all the addresses other than the list’s, the other listers don’t get your message more than once. > On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:44 AM, mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > > > I agree with Martyn too. We have had this discussion about

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

Am Mittwoch, 06. September 2017 10:32 CEST, Matthew Daillie schrieb: > Isn't there a cost issue too regarding server storage space? Given the low price of todays harddisks that price is neglectible. But there _is_ a cost factor: I used to read my mail on my cellphone and, at least over here

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

Isn't there a cost issue too regarding server storage space? Best, Matthew > On Sep 6, 2017, at 0:40, "G. C." wrote: > > Dear lutelist, > is there a way to remove all those endless quotings of earlier mails in > the string, as well as the (also) endless links that have been > displayed i

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

I agree with Martyn too. We have had this discussion about protocol so many times before and no one will agree. It is much better if people put their reply at the top whatever may have been de riguer in the past. In every way this makes more sense - and is especially helpful in the archived me

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

As always, I agree with Martyn. > On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:10 AM, Martyn Hodgson > wrote: > > The advantage of including all (or most) emails in a thread is that if > one wishes to be reminded of previous matters discussed in the thread, > it easy to simply scroll down - otherwise the laboriou

[LUTE] Re: Shorter emails

Of course it's perfectly possible to limit the length of emails but who is to act as censor? Some topics may need greater length than others. The advantage of including all (or most) emails in a thread is that if one wishes to be reminded of previous matters discussed in the thread,