[LUTE] Re: Johann Kropfgans

Apologies. I meant trio for lute violin and cello. r __ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Markus Lutz Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 7:11:22 PM To:

[LUTE] Re: Ugga, Agga

> On May 15, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Tristan von Neumann > wrote: > > I bet Conlon Nancarrow has some even shorter values I thought so too, so I was just looking at a Nancarrow score this morning. The note values were larger than you’d expect because he makes the

[LUTE] Re: Ugga, Agga

Dude... I bet Conlon Nancarrow has some even shorter values... though the interest in it would be only theoretical... Am 15.05.2018 um 17:44 schrieb John Mardinly: OK, it gets worse: the last part of the Wikipedia article that initially ignored mentions notes down to 4096th with 10 beams:

[LUTE] Re: Johann Kropfgans

In one of the lexika of the end of the 18th or beginning of the 19th century there is a remark, that Johann Kropfgans wrote 32 lute trios, but I cannot say at the moment, in which one it is written. We only have some complete trios in Brusseles and in Berlin. In Brusseles there probably are

[LUTE] Re: Johann Kropfgans

Hi Stephen, You got it ! ! ! 12 Trios lute, violin âcello in B-Br Ms II 4088. Also the Pichler piece in Ms II 4087 (viii) according to Tim Crawford. Meyer, Christian. "Les Manuscrits De Luth Du Fonds Fétis (Bruxelles,

[LUTE] Re: Johann Kropfgans

Think of the galant lute trio like a piano trio... You get the idea ;-) Best Stephan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Stewart McCoy Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 21:05 An: Lute Net Betreff: [LUTE] Johann

[LUTE] Johann Kropfgans

Dear Roland, I’m afraid I don’t know about these trios by Johann Kropfgans, but I would very much like to know more about them. I see from a quick search on the internet that Kropfgans wrote chamber music for the lute, violin and cello, including one in C minor, but I see no

[LUTE] Johann Kropfgans

He wrote 32 lute trios? What are the sources? I just heard one in c minor w/ Lutz Kerchoff. Outstanding!! r __ From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Wayne

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

Well put Stewart ! I like Dolata's book too and I think he is quite fair with all sorts of possible temperaments and choices for well informed performers. I was also surprised by the tone of this review and it doesn’t change a bit my first appreciation of Dolata’s book, probably the best on the

[LUTE] Re: Ugga, Agga

OK, it gets worse: the last part of the Wikipedia article that initially ignored mentions notes down to 4096th with 10 beams:

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

Hi Stewart - Yes, the copy of the article on my web page is now forbidden. And you *don’t* want to get involved with the three-headed dog! Wayne I tried > accessing Otterstedt's review on line again this morning, but without > success. Apparently it is now "forbidden". > >

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

On 15.05.2018 14:56, Daniel Shoskes wrote: I love this analytic approach! Not seeing the musical examples in context is it possible that a non-pure octave would be used to enhance the distinction of polyphonic lines? My mind is now reeling with the possible hypotheses that could be tested on

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

I love this analytic approach! Not seeing the musical examples in context is it possible that a non-pure octave would be used to enhance the distinction of polyphonic lines? My mind is now reeling with the possible hypotheses that could be tested on large Fronimo databases. Not exactly “big

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

I agree with your comments Stewart. I’ve read the complete book and the review (which maybe puts me in the minority of people commenting) and was planning to re-read the book on a long flight later this week to refresh my memory. While the book isn’t without faults, it does present sources and

[LUTE] Re: Amplitude of different strings

What do you mean? I am a mathematician, not a physicist, but I think it is clear that the maximum amplitude depends on the attack. Rainer On 13.05.2018 17:24, Jörg Hilbert wrote: Dear collected wisdom, can you tell me something about the amplitude of different strings – gut, Nylgut, carbon

[LUTE] Re: The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

Another argument, I have not seen here, yet. In unequal temperament all octaves are pure. In 1/6 meantone the octave 2e, 4b is not pure at all. There is a piece by de Rippe where he uses 2e and 5g instead. I have run a regular expression search (the computer gurus will know) on all my tab

[LUTE] Re: Ugga, Agga

Frankly speaking, the main reason for my post was the ridiculous demisemihemidemisemiquaver :) Rainer On 15.05.2018 04:12, howard posner wrote: On May 14, 2018, at 8:49 AM, John Mardinly wrote: According to Wikipedia, here are some instances:the second

[LUTE] The article by Annette Otterstedt about David Dolata's book about tuning

Having read David Dolata's book, and reviewed it for the Viola da Gamba Society, I was disappointed to read Annette Otterstedt's unkind review. Dolata produces a lot of evidence to show that unequal temperaments were used in the past for fretted instruments. For example, vihuelists