[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread Jurgen Frenz
It would be totally excellent if you'd find out where Besard made that suggestion. Thanks, jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:40 AM, Alain Veylit

[LUTE] Re: Tip - Lute Scribe character / font question

2019-03-04 Thread Jurgen Frenz
Oops - I REALLY was ignorant about the image issue. Here is a link to google docs, I inserted the screen shots into a text file. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s4MoYEk4QArbZBENI9AWZ_GJDGKms1VYFFZt_LTsp7E/edit?usp=sharing Best Jurgen -- “There is a voice

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread howard posner
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 7:12 PM, Richard Brook wrote: > > Heard via the late great Pat OBrien Paul O’Dette couldn’t bend that finger > down by itself. To be clear, in Paul’s younger days he had the not-uncommon problem of having the left-hand pinky stick up when it wasn’t in use, which kept

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread Alain Veylit
That's odd because I remember O'Dette's advice for the left-hand pinky: plant it vertically on the string instead of laying it flat - which requires more effort. That should mean his left-hand little finger can bend... Not a conclusive proof for the right hand little finger but ... For

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread Richard Brook
Heard via the late great Pat OBrien Paul O’Dette couldn’t bend that finger down by itself. Though I think Pat said in my case the fault was in my head, not in the stars. Dick Brook > On Mar 4, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: > > Good one Rainer - Anybody remembers the title of that

[LUTE] Tip - Lute Scribe character / font question

2019-03-04 Thread wayne lute
Hi Lute People and Jurgen - Looks like you don’t know that the lute list does not like pictures, which in this case is a shame. Perhaps you could post them on a web site or google documents. They show characters, especially the letter e, in lute-scribe input format and as output by my

[LUTE] Lute Scribe character / font question

2019-03-04 Thread Jurgen Frenz
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[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread howard posner
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:58 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: > > Anybody remembers the title of that American series from the 60s-70s where > aliens live among us in disguise, and the only sure way to identify them is > that they cannot bend their little finger? >From the Wikipedia page about The

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

2019-03-04 Thread Alain Veylit
Good one Rainer - Anybody remembers the title of that American series from the 60s-70s where aliens live among us in disguise, and the only sure way to identify them is that they cannot bend their little finger? Worth mentioning also about right-hand technique, Jimmy Hendrix playing with his

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Rainer
On 04.03.2019 17:11, Alain Veylit wrote: And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably always been a popular habit among musicians, whether by choice or force. And Aguado used the 4th finger of the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2019-03-04 Thread Jorge Torres
The preface to Gallot’s publication states a similar accusation: "Je n’ay pas crû devoir faire l’Orateur pour le justifier, ny pour prévenir la critique. Il n’y à que les bonnes choses qui se l’attirent et les méchantes ne le méritent pas. Je ne prétends pas éviter non plus

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Alain Veylit
And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably always been a popular habit among musicians, whether by choice or force. On 3/4/19 5:39 AM, Rainer wrote: Ooops, I mixed up 2nd and 3rd finger. Sorry :)

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Rainer
Ooops, I mixed up 2nd and 3rd finger. Sorry :) Rainer On 04.03.2019 13:23, Rainer wrote: On 04.03.2019 11:11, b...@symbol4.de wrote:     Dear all,     Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little     and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Rainer
On 04.03.2019 11:11, b...@symbol4.de wrote: Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it. This refers to the first exercises/pieces with two voices only:

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
Nothing to do with the model. Caravaggio himself was documented to have been a competent plucker, so he absolutely knew how to depict them fingers in correct positions. David van Edwards is "right on the money". RT On 3/4/2019 3:01 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: There's no reason why the third

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread b...@symbol4.de
Dear all, Gerle (Musica teusch, Nürnberg 1532) says explicitely: set the little and ring fingers of the right hand on the belly, not on the rose but a little behind it. Kind regards Bernd Gesendet: Montag, 04. März 2019 um 09:01 Uhr Von: "Martyn Hodgson" An:

[LUTE] Re: Caravaggio

2019-03-04 Thread Martyn Hodgson
There's no reason why the third finger should not be held on the belly - rather than the more conventional fourth. Indeed, some historical players (Kapsberger comes to mind) are recorded as only plucking with the thumb, first and second fingers. Further, it's not wholly unlikely