I have your cd, David. It's very nice and always goes in rotation when
   I'm in a Terzi mood.

   On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 9:55 AM David van Ooijen
   <[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Some years ago I recorded all the Terzi diets and had a good look
     at
        his intabulations.    Not easy, but not impossible. Here's what I
     wrote
        at the time:
        [1][2]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com/terzis-intabulations/
        Davud
        On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 17:49, Frank A. Gerbode, M.D.
        <[2][3]sa...@gerbode.net> wrote:
          That seems right. I have encountered a number of intabulations
     of
          multi-voice (like 5-6) pieces that seem unplayable (and not
     just to
          me),
          and I reached the conclusion that they were conceptual and the
          player
          did the best they could.
          --Sarge
          On 3/16/2020 03:08, Ron Andrico wrote:
          >       I think it is generally accepted that fret positions
     that
          would call
          >       for glued frets on the belly are conceptual.
     Meaning, if
          there was a
          >       fret there, it would be an o.
          >
          >       Molinaro's music is rich in rapid passage work but the
     real
          difficulty
          >       lies in managing the counterpoint.    He was an
     organist and
          some of his
          >       lute tablature transcribed into keyboard notation could
     sound
          very well
          >       on an organ.    I think he just worked out his lute
          arrangements to the
          >       fullest and expected that the player would aim for that
     ideal
          or modify
          >       as necessary.
          >
          >       RA
          >

     __________________________________________________________________
          >
          >       From: [3][4]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
          >       <[4][5]lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> on
     behalf of Sean
          Smith
          >       <[5][6]lutesm...@gmail.com>
          >       Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:32 PM
          >       To: lute <[6][7]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
          >       Subject: [LUTE] Re: Molinaro 12
          >
          >          Are we assuming belly frets up there?
          >          s
          >          On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 10:27 AM Christopher Stetson
          >          <[1][7][8]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote:
          >               ...or had large hands. Actually, though, I
     don't find
          them more
          >               technically difficult than many of the chanson
          intabulations of
          >            earlier
          >               publications.
          >               On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 1:12 PM Tristan von
     Neumann
          >               <[1][2][8][9]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
          >                 But seriously, how do you play
          >                 (pardon my French)
          >                 o
          >                 k
          >                 i
          >                 ??
          >                 Molinaro must have played a small lute...
          >                 On 15.03.20 17:59, Sean Smith wrote:
          >                 >         I foolishly mentioned that to him
     once. In
          his
          >       defense
          >            he
          >                 pointed out
          >                 >         it was his first recording nearly
     30 years
          ago. I'm
          >            still
          >                 pretty
          >                 >         impressed with it.
          >                 >         And then there's his Terzi cd that
     is top
          notch.
          >                 >         Sean
          >                 >
          >                 >         On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 11:22 AM
     Jurgen
          Frenz
          >                 >
          <[1][2][3][9][10]eye-and-ear-cont...@protonmail.com> wrote:
          >                 >
          >                 >           what about asking him?
          >                 >           Some fool (for our free of charge
          pleasure)
          >       uploaded
          >            a CD
          >                 of
          >                 >           Molinaro pieces played by Paul
     Beier (do
          you happen
          >            to know
          >                 him?).
          >                 >           Mea culpa I downloaded it - but I
          believe I can
          >       hear
          >            how he
          >                 was
          >                 >           struggling with the playing
     technique.
          >                 >           Best
          >                 >           JÃÃÃÃÃÃ Ã ¼rgen
          >                 >           Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à 
¢Ãà à ¢ÃÃ
     à ¢Ãà Ã
           ¢ Original Message Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢Ãà à ¢ÃÃ
          >       à ¢ÃÃ
          >            à ¢Ãà à ¢ÃÃ
          >                  Ã ¢
          >                 >           On Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:38
     PM,
          Tristan von
          >            Neumann
          >                 >
     <[2][3][4][10][11]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>
          wrote:
          >                 >           > But No. 12 is certainly one of
     the
          most difficult
          >            pieces
          >                 of the
          >                 >           entire
          >                 >           > literature.
          >                 >           > I guess even Paul O'Dette
     struggled a
          lot with
          >       it.
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