I wonder if we are looking at the same pictures. You can't see his right hand
or the rose at all- only the back of the instrument.
Robert Spencer in an article in Early Music April 1976 suggested that it was a
Chitarrone francese for which he had two manuscripts of music.
Was the gallichon in
Dear Monica,
There are two separate issues here, the lute and pegbox itself are
rather odd and dubious and I suspect Watteau didn't really care.
The position of the hand is a separate matter and it seems entirely
possible to me. To demonstrate, I've just taken a photo posed in the
same way
Thanks everyone! This has been very informative (and prompt!). I now
feel I have some useful information to pass along with the music to the
ukulelist (if she's interested!).
Stay well!
Leonard
Am 17.07.2020 um 16:42 schrieb Leonard Williams:
>A question about LeRoys
Dear Leonard,
Looking through book one, I think it it quite clear that LeRoy uses the
dot just to show that the note is not played with the thumb. It can
apparently mean either the index or middle finger which explains why it
sometimes occurs on accented beats. If you look at this way, he is
PS.
The other hidden arm is holding the instrument, stabilizing it.
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 6:06 PM G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:
+++ Normally you would be plucking the string to hear if it were
in
tune.
But the way his hand is positioned, it is
+++ Normally you would be plucking the string to hear if it were in
tune.
But the way his hand is positioned, it is conceivable that he could
pluck the string with the thumb to check if it was in tune, as well as
use the same thumb and index to tighten the peg no?
G.
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I agree whole heartedly with 2nd paragraph, Ron, and most of the first
but, having copied or studied a number of books from the period
specifically with dots in mind, I have found very few wayward dots. As
it requires an extra step to add that dot, either with quill or lead,
I've
Am Freitag, 17. Juli 2020 18:32 CEST, Monica Hall
schrieb:
> I still don't get it!
>
> Neither picture seems to make sense to me even when put side to side. In the
> Lute player the back view of the instrument is shown but the peg box is
> skewed to the front. The peg box is curved and
I still don't get it!
Neither picture seems to make sense to me even when put side to side. In the
Lute player the back view of the instrument is shown but the peg box is skewed
to the front. The peg box is curved and the pegs inserted laterally.
In the Theorbo player the back view of the
As usual, I have a different understanding of the use of the single dot
in plucked-string tablatures. The rudimentary interpretation is that
the index finger plucks every note with a single dot. The deeper
interpretation considers the single dot in a running passage as a
visual
Hi Leonard,
I think we can consider these to be accurate. Adrian LeRoy was his own
publisher so I'm sure he had the chance to proofread it.
On single lines his dotting is much as we would expect in most lute
tab: on the off beats as an indication of the index finger.
But we also
A question about LeRoys tabs for guiterre, recently brought to our
attention by Rainer: How "accurate" are the tabs? I notice a lot of
odd placement of right-hand fingering dots (for index, presumably); are
these in error? Some are under chords, some on first and third beats,
Dear Monica,
There's another related Watteau painting in the Wallace collection
(Pour nous prouver que cette belle) showing the same hand in much
more detail. Different instrument so the pegbox is a bit narrower and
that maybe makes the hand more possible. But the brushwork here shows
that
He is obviously using his left hand thumb for something. On the
petit jueu it seems. Maybe plucking a string in the tuning process.
G
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Am Freitag, 17. Juli 2020 11:50 CEST, Monica Hall
schrieb:
[...]
> However, what puzzles me is the odd position of his left arm and hand which
> seem to me to be anatomically impossible. It looks as if his fingers are
> stopping the back of the neck. Even if he was tuning it it couldn't
I don't really see it?
It looks like the hand is firmly stabilized to get good control of the peg.
One could argue that the peg would be a bit high compared to the others.
On 17.07.20 11:50, Monica Hall wrote:
"Les charmes de la vie" is a well-known painting by Watteau in the Wallace
"Les charmes de la vie" is a well-known painting by Watteau in the Wallace
Collection. You just need to put in the title "Les charmes de la vie" to bring
up several examples of it.
However, what puzzles me is the odd position of his left arm and hand which
seem to me to be anatomically
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