Dear all
        Leonard, If you are reading this message, then you would do =
better =20
to open the one that is addressed to you personally. I hope it won't =20
have the same problem.

        Somebody, may understand what is going on, so I send it to all. =20=

There seems to be something strange here, effecting all my message. =20
They return with "=3D20=3D" and  "=3D3D20" scattered throughout the =
message.

I don't recall seeing that before, but I suppose it may be due to the =20=

fact that I am using a Mac, and some format issues may be occurring. =20
I apologise to anyone who has added difficulty in decyphering them.

I believe these also effected my links to the photos, so it should be =20=

possible to recuperate them by deleting the right sequences of "=3D20=3D" =
=20
and  "=3D3D20". However, they are not quite systematic, and you may =20
delete, somthing significant in the link. I will therefore  try =20
sending the links directly, to anyone who wishes to see Henk's =20
photos. It takes less memory than the actual photos.
Please let me know if this works.

I have asked Wayne about it, but I imagine he has other things to do =20
on a Sunday, I can't say that I blame him.

Best regards
Anthony



Le 30 sept. 07 =E0 16:03, Leonard Williams a =E9crit :


> Is there a key to manually "cleaning up" these links to access the =20
> images??
> I'd like to see these mechanical pegs, but I have had no success =20
> with the
> links as given, nor with searches at the photo bucket site.
>
> Regards,
> Leonard Williams
>
> On 9/30/07 5:05 AM, "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Henk
>>    Well, I see that that the image link is automatically garbled =20
>> by =3D20=3D
>>
>> intervening letters and numbers.
>> I can understand that this is a security against unwanted images.
>> It would be possible to give a rule for removing these, but it is =20
>> too =3D20=3D
>>
>> complex.
>> The best thing is to ask Henk for his photos directly, should you =20
>> be =3D20
>> interested.
>> Regards
>> Anthony
>>
>> Le 30 sept. 07 =3DE0 09:28, Anthony Hind a =3DE9crit :
>>
>>
>>> Henk and Ed
>>>         The French Vihuelist considers that installing the new =20
>>> pegs =3D20=3D
>>>
>>
>>
>>> =3D3D20
>>> does not make the peg-head more fragile. He argues that once they =20=

>>> =3D20
>>> are =3D3D20=3D3D
>>>
>>> in place the lute undergoes much less strain than when at each =3D3D20=

>>> tuning, we tend to force the peg home to hold it there. He also =3D20
>>> says =3D3D20
>>> that the pegs are not heavier than the original ones. =20
>>> Nevertheless, =3D20=3D
>>>
>>
>>
>>> =3D3D20
>>> the surgery is invasive, and the aspect of the pegs, close to =20
>>> will =3D3D20=3D
>>>
>>
>>
>>> not be "authentic". The pleasure obtained in ease of tuning, =3D20
>>> however, =3D3D20=3D3D
>>>
>>> he assures us is very great.
>>>
>>>           Henk sent photos that should allow anyone to view the =20
>>> =3D3D20
>>> process of installing the new pegs, to judge whether the it is =3D20
>>> worth it.
>>> I don't know whether these photos can be viewed easilly. I have =3D
>>>
>> =3D3D20=3D3D
>>
>>>
>>> loaded them at two separate web  pages. One is the French luth =3D20
>>> Yahoo =3D3D20
>>> page and may need a code, the other is Photobucket and should =20
>>> allow =3D20=3D
>>>
>>
>>
>>> =3D3D20
>>> free viewing if the other doesn't work. It may be necessary to =20
>>> copy =3D20=3D
>>>
>>
>>
>>> =3D3D20
>>> the address into your browser.
>>>
>>> 1) Henk's own lute's peghead showing classic lute pegs
>>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D1=

>>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20=

>>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview&current=3D3D3DLuteHenkPakker800x600.jpg
>>>
>>> 2) Widening the peg holes
>>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D2=

>>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20=

>>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview&current=3D3D3DLuteReamingHoles.jpg
>>>
>>> 3) The end piece of a peg
>>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D3=

>>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20=

>>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview&current=3D3D3Dmillingluteheads.jpg
>>>
>>> 4) Completely repegged lute
>>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20=

>>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview&current=3D3D3DLutePeghedComplete.jpg
>>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D4=

>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 29 sept. 07 =3D3DE0 12:58, Anthony Hind a =3D3DE9crit :
>>>
>>>
>>>> Henk
>>>> A vihuelist on the French list reports he has adapted these pegs =3D
>>>>
>> =3D3D
>>
>>> =3D3D20
>>>
>>>> himself for his vihuela (or rather vice versa) and tells us they =20=

>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> are very pleasant indeed. Only the price, 270 USD for 12 pegs, =20
>>>> he =3D3D20=3D
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> says, prevents him from equiping all his instruments.
>>>>
>>>> However, you do have to widen the peg-holes. The pegs themselve =20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> screw into the hole, and some gluing is involved. Therefore, =3D20
>>>> having =3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> them fitted by a specialist, as you suggest, would seem much safer.
>>>>
>>>> However, perhaps, this still might weaken the peg-box structure; =20=

>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> and if your lute is an exact copy of a historic lute, the pegs =20
>>>> may =3D20=3D
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> no longer look the part. Unless they can exactly match the =20
>>>> outside =3D20=3D
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> shape.
>>>> Fear that these pegs could perhaps be heavier than the =20
>>>> originals, =3D3D20=3D
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> which could effect the sound, has been contradicted by the =3D3D20
>>>> Vihuelist, who says they seem as light as his original pegs.
>>>> Anthony
>>>>
>>>> The explanations are here :
>>>> http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/5743
>>>>
>>>> Le 29 sept. 07 =3D3D3DE0 11:52, henk a =3D3D3DE9crit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting..?
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some enclosed foto's, if someone wants to see them =20
>>>>> let =3D3D20=3D
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> me =3D3D3D20=3D3D3D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> know. (Earlier I forewarded the mail with enclosures, but that =20
>>>>> =3D3D3D20=3D
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> doesn't seem to work - with an empty message as result).
>>>>>
>>>>> Henk Pakker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: John Charles Herin
>>>>> To: henk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:10 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Lute Pegs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Henk:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you send my your pegs, of another set of your choice, I can =3D20=

>>>>> fit =3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> your heads to my mechanism.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can match the color of the outer shank to ebony or rosewood =20
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> heads.  The portion of the shank within the peg box wall will =20
>>>>> be =3D20
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> black in either case.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have sold quite a few sets for lute.  On customer Derek =20
>>>>> Bowers =3D3D20=3D
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> of =3D3D3D20=3D3D3D
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> California, USA has over the years converted three instruments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if I can help you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck Herin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> henk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Is it possible to make them for (baroque) lutes as well...? =3D20
>>>>> (see =3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> photo).
>>>>>
>>>>>   Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Henk Pakker
>>>>>   The Netherlands
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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