Dear all Leonard, If you are reading this message, then you would do = better =20 to open the one that is addressed to you personally. I hope it won't =20 have the same problem.
Somebody, may understand what is going on, so I send it to all. =20= There seems to be something strange here, effecting all my message. =20 They return with "=3D20=3D" and "=3D3D20" scattered throughout the = message. I don't recall seeing that before, but I suppose it may be due to the =20= fact that I am using a Mac, and some format issues may be occurring. =20 I apologise to anyone who has added difficulty in decyphering them. I believe these also effected my links to the photos, so it should be =20= possible to recuperate them by deleting the right sequences of "=3D20=3D" = =20 and "=3D3D20". However, they are not quite systematic, and you may =20 delete, somthing significant in the link. I will therefore try =20 sending the links directly, to anyone who wishes to see Henk's =20 photos. It takes less memory than the actual photos. Please let me know if this works. I have asked Wayne about it, but I imagine he has other things to do =20 on a Sunday, I can't say that I blame him. Best regards Anthony Le 30 sept. 07 =E0 16:03, Leonard Williams a =E9crit : > Is there a key to manually "cleaning up" these links to access the =20 > images?? > I'd like to see these mechanical pegs, but I have had no success =20 > with the > links as given, nor with searches at the photo bucket site. > > Regards, > Leonard Williams > > On 9/30/07 5:05 AM, "Anthony Hind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Henk >> Well, I see that that the image link is automatically garbled =20 >> by =3D20=3D >> >> intervening letters and numbers. >> I can understand that this is a security against unwanted images. >> It would be possible to give a rule for removing these, but it is =20 >> too =3D20=3D >> >> complex. >> The best thing is to ask Henk for his photos directly, should you =20 >> be =3D20 >> interested. >> Regards >> Anthony >> >> Le 30 sept. 07 =3DE0 09:28, Anthony Hind a =3DE9crit : >> >> >>> Henk and Ed >>> The French Vihuelist considers that installing the new =20 >>> pegs =3D20=3D >>> >> >> >>> =3D3D20 >>> does not make the peg-head more fragile. He argues that once they =20= >>> =3D20 >>> are =3D3D20=3D3D >>> >>> in place the lute undergoes much less strain than when at each =3D3D20= >>> tuning, we tend to force the peg home to hold it there. He also =3D20 >>> says =3D3D20 >>> that the pegs are not heavier than the original ones. =20 >>> Nevertheless, =3D20=3D >>> >> >> >>> =3D3D20 >>> the surgery is invasive, and the aspect of the pegs, close to =20 >>> will =3D3D20=3D >>> >> >> >>> not be "authentic". The pleasure obtained in ease of tuning, =3D20 >>> however, =3D3D20=3D3D >>> >>> he assures us is very great. >>> >>> Henk sent photos that should allow anyone to view the =20 >>> =3D3D20 >>> process of installing the new pegs, to judge whether the it is =3D20 >>> worth it. >>> I don't know whether these photos can be viewed easilly. I have =3D >>> >> =3D3D20=3D3D >> >>> >>> loaded them at two separate web pages. One is the French luth =3D20 >>> Yahoo =3D3D20 >>> page and may need a code, the other is Photobucket and should =20 >>> allow =3D20=3D >>> >> >> >>> =3D3D20 >>> free viewing if the other doesn't work. It may be necessary to =20 >>> copy =3D20=3D >>> >> >> >>> =3D3D20 >>> the address into your browser. >>> >>> 1) Henk's own lute's peghead showing classic lute pegs >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D1= >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20= >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview¤t=3D3D3DLuteHenkPakker800x600.jpg >>> >>> 2) Widening the peg holes >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D2= >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20= >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview¤t=3D3D3DLuteReamingHoles.jpg >>> >>> 3) The end piece of a peg >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D3= >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20= >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview¤t=3D3D3Dmillingluteheads.jpg >>> >>> 4) Completely repegged lute >>> http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%=3D3D20= >>> 20pegs/?action=3D3D3Dview¤t=3D3D3DLutePeghedComplete.jpg >>> http://fr.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/photos/view/e772?b=3D3D3D4= >>> >>> Anthony >>> >>> >>> Le 29 sept. 07 =3D3DE0 12:58, Anthony Hind a =3D3DE9crit : >>> >>> >>>> Henk >>>> A vihuelist on the French list reports he has adapted these pegs =3D >>>> >> =3D3D >> >>> =3D3D20 >>> >>>> himself for his vihuela (or rather vice versa) and tells us they =20= >>>> =3D3D20 >>>> are very pleasant indeed. Only the price, 270 USD for 12 pegs, =20 >>>> he =3D3D20=3D >>>> >> >> >>>> says, prevents him from equiping all his instruments. >>>> >>>> However, you do have to widen the peg-holes. The pegs themselve =20 >>>> =3D3D20 >>>> screw into the hole, and some gluing is involved. Therefore, =3D20 >>>> having =3D3D20=3D3D >>>> >>> >>> >>>> them fitted by a specialist, as you suggest, would seem much safer. >>>> >>>> However, perhaps, this still might weaken the peg-box structure; =20= >>>> =3D3D20 >>>> and if your lute is an exact copy of a historic lute, the pegs =20 >>>> may =3D20=3D >>>> >> >> >>>> =3D3D20 >>>> no longer look the part. Unless they can exactly match the =20 >>>> outside =3D20=3D >>>> >> >> >>>> =3D3D20 >>>> shape. >>>> Fear that these pegs could perhaps be heavier than the =20 >>>> originals, =3D3D20=3D >>>> >> >> >>>> which could effect the sound, has been contradicted by the =3D3D20 >>>> Vihuelist, who says they seem as light as his original pegs. >>>> Anthony >>>> >>>> The explanations are here : >>>> http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/5743 >>>> >>>> Le 29 sept. 07 =3D3D3DE0 11:52, henk a =3D3D3DE9crit : >>>> >>>> >>>>> Interesting..? >>>>> >>>>> There are some enclosed foto's, if someone wants to see them =20 >>>>> let =3D3D20=3D >>>>> >> >> >>>>> me =3D3D3D20=3D3D3D >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> know. (Earlier I forewarded the mail with enclosures, but that =20 >>>>> =3D3D3D20=3D >>>>> >> >> >>>>> doesn't seem to work - with an empty message as result). >>>>> >>>>> Henk Pakker >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: John Charles Herin >>>>> To: henk >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:10 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Lute Pegs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Henk: >>>>> >>>>> If you send my your pegs, of another set of your choice, I can =3D20= >>>>> fit =3D3D20=3D3D >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>> your heads to my mechanism. >>>>> >>>>> I can match the color of the outer shank to ebony or rosewood =20 >>>>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>> heads. The portion of the shank within the peg box wall will =20 >>>>> be =3D20 >>>>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>> black in either case. >>>>> >>>>> I have sold quite a few sets for lute. On customer Derek =20 >>>>> Bowers =3D3D20=3D >>>>> >> >> >>>>> of =3D3D3D20=3D3D3D >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> California, USA has over the years converted three instruments. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if I can help you. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Herin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> henk wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to make them for (baroque) lutes as well...? =3D20 >>>>> (see =3D3D20=3D3D >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> =3D3D3D20 >>>>> photo). >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Henk Pakker >>>>> The Netherlands >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >