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To me, everything in Doni seems pretty old school even for 1640.
Th
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Would you mind looking up what is the criteria of the dating of the second
scribe?
If it's the minuet because it was made popular by
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To me, everything in Doni seems pretty old school even for 1640.
The minuet seems by the same hand and is in th
Im Auftrag
von Tristan von Neumann
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2018 11:55
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Betreff: [LUTE] Re: I'm confused.
To me, everything in Doni seems pretty old school even for 1640.
The minuet seems by the same hand and is in the middle of the page between "Ballo di
Matova
S. edition.
Mathias
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Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Tristan von Neumann
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2018 11:55
An: lutelist Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: I'm confused.
To me, everything in Doni seems pretty old
To me, everything in Doni seems pretty old school even for 1640.
The minuet seems by the same hand and is in the middle of the page
between "Ballo di Matova" (very oldschool) and a simple ciacona.
Also, this is just halfway through the manuscript.
http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/doni_lute_book/033
Haven't played from Doni for a while but I always assumed that that the minuet
and some other pieces
are (much) later additions to the original manuscript. I never looked at the
original, so I can't judge
the scribal situation but judging by stile some of the pieces are definitely
beginning 1
Well, it helps, but if there is no actual example, I still know nothing :)
Am 18.01.2018 um 08:38 schrieb Seicento/Rainer Luckhardt:
Hi Tristan,
no idea if it's correct but I've found this:
[1]Konrad Ragossnig: Handbuch der Gitarre und Laute. Schott, Mainz
1978, [2]ISBN 3-7957
Hi Tristan,
no idea if it's correct but I've found this:
[1]Konrad Ragossnig: Handbuch der Gitarre und Laute. Schott, Mainz
1978, [2]ISBN 3-7957-2329-9, S. 111 f. (Menuett); hier: S. 111.
.und der Hinweis Ragossnigs, dass die Bezeichnung Menuett erstmals
im 16. Jahrhundert
Thank you Captain Obvious :)
As there seems to be some obscurity about the origins of the minuet, it
would be nice to find other earlier examples.
If there aren't any, this is the first written minuet.
I usually don't play 17th century (with 7 courses, duh..)
I just find Doni's book easy to pla
The minuet was introduced to the French court by Lully around 1673 but
that doesn't mean it didn't exist beforehand (Doni's manuscript was
probably completed about 30 years earlier).
Best,
Matthew
On 17/01/2018 20:48, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
..why is there a Minuet in Doni's Lutebook?
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