So the Cellier drawing is possibly backwards with a wide doubled first
course and a single bass?
No - a single 1st course but the other three courses are double...
The other thing about it is that it has a tuning in mensural notation in
which the clefs are probably wrong and some written tunin
I should have said in my previous message ...The manuscript also has a
drawing of a spinet. Instead of having alternate
groups of two and three black keys it has three consecutive groups of THREE
black
keys. (upper case used for emphasis). Perhaps it was microtonal! Or had
alternate keys for A
As an old printer myself (20 years in the offset lithography trade) I
can tell you that too many left-handed pipe organs- (or lutes with bass
extensions) in a picture definitely raises a red flag or two.
The manuscript also has a drawing of a spinet. Instead of having alternate
groups of tw
So the Cellier drawing is possibly backwards with a wide doubled first course
and a single bass? Interesting. I have seen quite a few reversed images,
compliments of quick printing or drawing that didn't anticipate the reversal or
figured the audience wouldn't notice. I don't expect it to not
On 5/14/2015 1:48 AM, Monica Hall wrote:
There is never any evidence that something was never done!
An important "Primal Directive" to keep in mind...
As a matter of interest I have put the illustration from British Library
Add.Ms.30342 on my page at earlyguitar.ning.for those of you who belo
Thank you for your kind words!
MOnica
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Andrico"
To: "Monica Hall" ; "Sean Smith"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Michael Fink's split 4th article
Monica, I salute you for this en
Monica, I salute you for this enlightened statement. Attempting to
make sense of something from the remote past based on misunderstanding
scant and flimsy evidence reminds me of the premise of the (historical)
novel, A Canticle for Leibowitz. If one want to examine the extent of
th
There is never any evidence that something was never done!
As a matter of interest I have put the illustration from British Library
Add.Ms.30342 on my page at earlyguitar.ning.for those of you who belong.
This is the same as the Cellier drawing.
The two drawings are thought to have been copied in
Good night from England.
Monica
- Original Message -
From: "Robert Barto"
To: "Monica Hall"
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Michael Fink's split 4th article
What I'm saying is that in both pictures the 4th course is wider for
ginal Message -
From: "Robert Barto"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 7:43 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Michael Fink's split 4th article
It's the same thing with the Cellier illustration (search Cellier 4 course
guitar pictures).
Why split for both hands? It makes no sense if
First of all - given that Cantu was apparently born in 1609 this portrait of
him must date from the mid 1630s at least - some eighty years after the
French 4-course books were printed and therefore hardly a suitable model for
the earlier instument. The kind of music which he is playing - probably
It's the same thing with the Cellier illustration (search Cellier 4
course guitar pictures).
Why split for both hands? It makes no sense if you just want one octave
or the other.
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