Le 6 nov. 08 à 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

> Dear David and David,
>
> Another line of research considers treating the
> soundboard with chemicals. I noticed this New Scientist article
> (which you may well know) and which claims a strad's sound could be
> partly due to treatment with wood preservative, against fungal and
> insect attack.

Logs often grow some distance from the mill, if not dragged or sledded, were floated down stream in chains or as part of rafts. When lake or other large body of water allowed, vast 'rafts' were assembled using chains and dragged by ships.

At the mill, thare was usually a pond where logs were kept in the water to prevent them from internal faults from the stresses of drying out until the mill hands had time to prepare them properly. It also allowed water to replace sap, making the final drying process less stressful. It would not be unusual for such a pond to have brackish water, some part salt, some part fresh. Might have been fed by streams contaminated by mine tailings. All of the mineral content seen by Nagyvary could have an accidental source, one that made for wood with unusual qualitys. It is quite likely that such qualitys would have been noticed, exploited, considered, and attempts made to replicate and understand the process for when different sources might be needed. The 30 years war and the napoleonic wars provided ample reason for craftsmen all over europe, but especially in the german states to be wary of l'homme armee and associated economic ravages.

That sounds entirely possible: accidental contamination later recognized as a source of improvement (better conservation of the wood and/or improved sound). Indeed, I think that the process for obtaining nylgut was discovered accidentally. Now, I believe M.P. is going to make some deliberate experiments on new types of synthetic strings. (as far as I can understand, most synthetic music strings were not produced originally for that purpose).

However, the quotation ('' salts improve the voice of all sorts of musical instruments' ) from Bernard Palissy does seem to show that at least some luthiers were conscious of the improvement that these salts could bring, and that somehow BP had heard about this. Perhaps the spruce wood, used by the Italian masters, would have come from areas originally controlled by the closed and secretive guilds centred on Fussen, so the fact that Bernard de Palissy had heard anything about these treatments, could be surprising. Although he would have been well placed to pick-up and understand the significance of such information. As a master stained-glass artist he travelled widely all over France and neighbouring regions, the Low Countries, perhaps even in the Rhine Provinces of Germany and in Italy. While carrying out this work, his experiments with coloured glass making would give him a wide practical and theoretical knowledge of salts and oxides, which could allow him to understand the significance of such information.

Indeed, Palissy (perhaps a "father" of chemistry) became a sort of forerunner in diffusing such 'scientific" knowledge, actually organizing lectures in which he divulged his discoveries, "Having in this way learned the truth about such things, and being quite convinced of it, I reflected that I had spent much time in learning about earths, stones, waters, and metals, and that old age now was urging me to multiply the talents God had given me, so that it would be good to bring to light all these wonderful secrets, in order to bequeath them to posterity." BP

Nevertheless, he refused to divulge the "recipes" of his own glazes. In the "Art de Terre", through his dialogue between Practic and Theoric, he explains the dilemma: "Do you really believe that a man of sound judgement would be willing to give away the secrets of an art that cost the one who invented it a high price?" To which Theoric replies, "There is no charity in you. If you are resolved to keep your secret hidden in this way, you will take it with you to the grave and none will profit from it, so that your end will be cursed..." but Practic tells how objects of unlimited reproduction carried out with recipes and no art, just debase the art as happened, for example, with "histories of Our Lady printed in wood cuts following the model of a German called Albert (Durer), only those stories were made in such great abundance that they fell into low esteem and were sold for two liards a piece, although the drawing was finely done,"

I don't think, therefore, we should be surprised not to find detailed recipes for loading spruce, or even for loading gut.

You are right in saying how much the 30 years and the Napoleonic wars must have disrupted this ancient guild structure, presumably much of their skills and knowledge could have been lost. This, I think could also have been true for the network of string- makers guilds that spread out from Italy over much of Europe. At a time when patents did not exist, the only way an atelier could keep its supremacy, must have been secrecy. Even today we see this in areas where patents don't really hold law. Here in the centre of Paris there is a family run atelier of master icecream craftsmen. I have heard much speculation that the secret recipes are only held by a few male members of the Berthillon family.

Now whether the "loading" of spruce soundboards was deliberate or by sheer chance and with no knowledge on the part of the luthiers (but I think we often underestimate the experimental skills and knowledge of the "old ones"), it does seem that such chemical treatments do bring improvements to musical instruments. I wonder therefore, why these same techniques are not used more widely today.
Anthony




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