[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread howard posner
> On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > The lack of clarity and crispness in the depiction of strings has > nothing to do with the artist's attention to detail, and such a > suggestion is a discredit to an artist known for his extreme adherence > to symbolism, proportion and s

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread Tristan von Neumann
tmouth.edu on behalf of David Van Edwards Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:26 PM To: Ron Andrico Cc: Tristan von Neumann; lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475? Dear Ron, Well it would be nice to be sure about the playing technique but

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Ron, Well it would be nice to be sure about the playing technique but to be honest I can't see a plectrum in either hand. There is just the faintest shadow that might be a remnant of plectrum over the first finger of the left hand lutenist but I wouldn't swear to it. Though of course bot

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread David Van Edwards
Yes this one is well known and it does indeed look as if they have sunken roses like those of Gerard David but the painting has been "cleaned" to within an inch of its life, certainly the strings did not survive! Your earlier one by circle of Caporali was unknown to me so thank you very much

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread David van Ooijen
Imagine lutenist in some distant future looking the hands of the luth dorée models for clues on early 21st century playing technique. *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread howard posner
> On Apr 30, 2018, at 12:16 PM, John Mardinly wrote: > > The left lute does not seem to have any pegs and neither appears to > have a bridge, yet both lutenists look like they are trying to stop the > lowest course with their thumbs. Neither lute appears to have strings. The artist was not

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread Antonio Corona
Piero della Francesca . __ From: Tristan von Neumann To: lutelist Net Sent: Monday, 30 April 2018, 11:46 Subject: [LUTE] another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475? This nativity has two very big lutes in i

[LUTE] Re: another lute nativity - 6 courses in 1475?

2018-04-30 Thread John Mardinly
The left lute does not seem to have any pegs and neither appears to have a bridge, yet both lutenists look like they are trying to stop the lowest course with their thumbs. A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. On Apr 30, 2018, at 9:45 AM, Tristan von Neumann <[1]tristanvonneum...@g