[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Law suits

2007-10-15 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 14 oct. 07 =E0 02:08, howard posner a ecrit : On Oct 13, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: but please don't take my remarks too seriously, No danger of that, though I'll point out there was enough in your little paragraph to fail an exam in both torts and civil procedure at

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Law suits

2007-10-15 Thread howard posner
On Oct 15, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: But if you feel Lawyers take too much teasing, then just think of us phoneticians, I'm afraid no one ever does. Sorry though if you feel your trade is too often a butt of jokes. I can understand that could be somewhat tiresome. I

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread Daniel Winheld
Hi honey I'm home time for some answers- Yep. Archery-derived lutestring hooking would produce deliciously funky sound. Hooking of lute strings would have to be learned independently of archery. At one's very first archery lesson it becomes manifest that the shot cannot come off unless the

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Law suits

2007-10-13 Thread Anthony Hind
Louis Those law students were probably learning how to drum up conflicts out of nothing, so someone would file a law suit, and they could offer their services. That is what in French universities, they call travaux praitiques. They would have got very good marks for trying …

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread vance wood
, October 12, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: longbows lutes Possibly. However a sense of humer is not really useful in jurisprudence. It can be as this judge shows. http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTcyN2UzMDE3NGNhNGFlZjU0YjMzOWE1YzkxMjk0NWE= Too bad. The arquebus was supremely

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread howard posner
On Oct 13, 2007, at 5:24 AM, vance wood wrote: Roman; you are correct but there is one caveat, it takes a lifetime of practice and training to become a competent archer and a couple of weeks to learn to shoot an harquebus, if you don't blow your own head off first. That one fact caused

[LUTE] Re: longbows, lutes, Law suits, and Duelling

2007-10-13 Thread The Other
Hello Anthony, The USA is a lawsuit happy country. From your reference to the French universities, perhaps France is also a lawsuit happy country. A possible conclusion would be that the more civilized a country is, the more lawsuit happy a country is. If this is conclusion is true, then

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Law suits

2007-10-13 Thread howard posner
On Oct 13, 2007, at 1:20 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Those law students were probably learning how to drum up conflicts out of nothing, so someone would file a law suit, and they could offer their services. That is what in French universities, they call travaux praitiques. They would have

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread Roman Turovsky
Roman; you are correct but there is one caveat, it takes a lifetime of practice and training to become a competent archer and a couple of weeks to learn to shoot an harquebus, if you don't blow your own head off first. That one fact caused the doom of the military archer. You could line up

[LUTE] Re: longbows, lutes, Law suits, and Duelling

2007-10-13 Thread Arne Keller
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: longbows, lutes, Law suits, and Duelling Hello Anthony, The USA is a lawsuit happy country. From your reference to the French universities, perhaps France is also a lawsuit happy country. A possible conclusion would

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread howard posner
On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:38 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: went through almost any thing and every thing that was hit, including the armored Knight. VW I am having a bit of trouble trying to commiserate with the latter. He was probably the one employing a lute player, so be kind. A bit like

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread Roman Turovsky
went through almost any thing and every thing that was hit, including the armored Knight. VW I am having a bit of trouble trying to commiserate with the latter. He was probably the one employing a lute player, so be kind. A bit like you and Martha Stewart, I suppose... I have worked on a

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Law suits

2007-10-13 Thread Anthony Hind
Howard, you are thinking the law students are expecting the lute player to lose; but if you can prove you couldn't possibly hear the lute, even if you're in the same room with it (so long as the library walls are lined with books), it doesnt matter whether you started all the rumpus, you

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes [OT]

2007-10-13 Thread Anthony Hind
Dana Do you use synthetics, or gut on your longbow? Historically, bowstrings have been made from sinew, twisted rawhide, gut, hemp, flax, or silk. Today, strings for wooden longbows are often made of linen thread. Compound bows may be strung with steel wire. Bowstrings for popular

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Law suits

2007-10-13 Thread howard posner
On Oct 13, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Anthony Hind wrote: Howard, you are thinking the law students are expecting the lute player to lose; but if you can prove you couldn't possibly hear the lute, even if you're in the same room with it (so long as the library walls are lined with books), it

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Craig Allen
Anthony wrote: When I saw Jacob Heringman play, I couldn't help seeing him as an an archer: both lower left arm and lower right arm and the lute parallel to the ground. His left hand was near the rose, but when he drew it back towards the bridge, it seemed cranked back progressively by a

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Craig Allen
Roman wrote: Possibly. However a sense of humer is not really useful in jurisprudence. It can be as this judge shows. http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTcyN2UzMDE3NGNhNGFlZjU0YjMzOWE1YzkxMjk0NWE= Too bad. The arquebus was supremely effective against archers. RT Actually not so much.

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Guy Smith
compared to what a skilled bowman could manage because they were smooth bores; rifling hadn't been invented yet. Guy -Original Message- From: Craig Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:14 AM To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: longbows lutes Roman wrote

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Anthony Hind
When I saw Jacob Heringman play, I couldn't help seeing him as an an archer: both lower left arm and lower right arm and the lute parallel to the ground. His left hand was near the rose, but when he drew it back towards the bridge, it seemed cranked back progressively by a mechanism

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Guy Smith
12, 2007 8:32 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: longbows lutes Obviously a situation calling for using the mighty Yew tree in its military form. Shakespeare, of course, understood the need for preparing the venue before a concert could proceed- First, we kill all the lawyers

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Daniel Winheld
A shame that Henry and Liz were not privy to your wisdom. The great target scores of English SPORTING archery, set by A. Horace Ford in the 1850's -unmatched until the 20th century- were accomplished after the advent, flowering, and hegemony of the lute. Are you saying that Howard Posner, Ben

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
A shame that Henry and Liz were not privy to your wisdom. The great target scores of English SPORTING archery, set by A. Horace Ford in the 1850's -unmatched until the 20th century- were accomplished after the advent, flowering, and hegemony of the lute. Are you saying that Howard Posner, Ben

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: longbows lutes Obviously a situation calling for using the mighty Yew tree in its military form

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Doctor Oakroot
I'm both an archer (very amateur) and a lute player. As the only archer amongst all the lute players (so far as I know- as well as the only lutenist amongst the archers) I can't recommend the study of archery too strongly- what a great balance of culturally physically complementary

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Roman Turovsky
Obviously a situation calling for using the mighty Yew tree in its military form. Shakespeare, of course, understood the need for preparing the venue before a concert could proceed- First, we kill all the lawyers... This thoughtless exhortation would include among intended victims Howard

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Daniel Winheld
Obviously a situation calling for using the mighty Yew tree in its military form. Shakespeare, of course, understood the need for preparing the venue before a concert could proceed- First, we kill all the lawyers... and the longbow, even more than other bows, is a silent weapon well suited

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Gruyere cheese

2007-10-12 Thread Louis Aull
While preparing for a concert on ren lute years ago at Emory University, in the Law School building, I stepped out into the hallway to practice a few quiet licks while the consort practiced another piece I didn't play in. This was at 8pm. The hallway was cavernous and made a nice echo. Within a

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread howard posner
On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Possibly. However a sense of humer is not really useful in jurisprudence. You'd be surprised. We're a pretty quippy lot, and the ones who aren't are often unintentionally funny. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Craig Allen
Guy wrote: That makes at least two of us, although I confess to only limited experience with a longbow. At least I don't use those silly contraptions with cables and pulleys that pass for bows these days... Make that three. And while I don't shoot a traditional English longbow I do shoot a

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-12 Thread Edward Martin
How about all thumbs? ed At 08:47 AM 10/12/2007 -0700, Craig Allen wrote: Make that three. And while I don't shoot a traditional English longbow I do shoot a traditional Magyar style horse bow. I also recently picked up a booklet on the science of using a thumb ring. Hmmm, now should I shoot

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Gruyere cheese

2007-10-11 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Martin and Ron How about this natural spring question, and the differing resonant properties of heartwood and sapwood? Do you think, Martin, that heartwood/sapwood Yew has a different sound from plain Yew? Stephen Gottlieb mentions how well Yew goes with gut. Do you have the

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes and Gruyere cheese

2007-10-11 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Martin and all I am afraid with this topic, I unleashed this necessary reflection on war and weaponry. You are quite right, Martin, to bring us back to the reality that when bows were turned into lutes, swords were only tunrned into ploughshares because a better weapon had become