this site is a great source for lute pictures! I don't want to insist but ... for acuracy see http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1-Pages/Image115.html (introdiced on the site as possible portrait of Francesco da Milano) and imagine what a thumb this guy must have had. Anyway the chord he fingered looks plausible and the right hand position (including the position of the fingers), too. What chord would you choose when posing for a paintig? Surely a rather common one (as in 115, where a F-Major is depicted assuming G-Tuning) - B-E-c would be a rather odd chord for that. As already mentioned by others: It's well possible that the guy of the picture in question just "posed" and the position of his left hand fingers are just like "grabbing" the lute. If you take a look at /image30.html you see the thumb raising over the neck but is not fingering. I wonder how the chord would sound fingering like that And regarding the original picture I wonder at which time it was painted. The lute model looks interesting ... Best wishes Thomas Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 17.02.2005 16:12:23 An: LUTE-LIST <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Kopie: Thema: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes > so play the chord this guy here is fingering. (Bb on the 6th course, E on > the the 5th, C on the 3rd assuming a ren- lute in G) Which fingers on your > right hand would you use? > * The right hand doesn't seem to pluck the strings this guy is fingering > (he seems to pluck the 2nd and 4th string ) ... That doesn't mean much. His right hand might have plucked and the left lagged. Alfonso Marin's iconography page has a staggering number of left-thumbers http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1.html, some protruding, some fretting. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html CONFIDENTIALITY : This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to another person, use it for any purpose or store or copy the information in any medium.