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> >The tension holding the nut in place is convenient >because it
> >allows a quick change of different nuts
design as well.
Best regards,
Marion
Michael Thames
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> This is explanation is a good start but it is incomplete because
> it did not name the fundamenta
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To: timothy motz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lute list
Subject: Peg box bent: was: Pegs, revisited - ebony
> >Jon,
>In addition to reducing the mechanical moment (I haven't used that
>phrase since
> >Jon,
>In addition to reducing the mechanical moment (I haven't used that
>phrase since high school physics class), the angled peg head makes it
>easier for the peg head to bear the tension of the strings. If the
>peg head was straight out, as in a guitar, there would be tremendous
>pull from t
the peg in or out for tuning.
Perhaps the harder woods stand up better to the torsional stress from
twisting the pegs.
Those would be my guesses.
Tim
>
>
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>D
Somehow in the raucous banter on the thread my original question got lost,
except for Tony as quoted below.
> As Jon said, the modern choice of the harder material for the disposable
bit
> does seem odd. It also seems odd that the efforts made at the time being
> directed towards lightness in the
I will ask Baldock to hurry inventing neurolines.
danyel
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>> Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough >to make pegs from?
>> Yes. Matanya.
>> RT
> To enshrine him in a lute. Maybe he can donate something to make strings
> from too.
No doubt. He has plenty of nerve.
RT
>
>
>>> Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs
bitch ;-)
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> > Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs fro
> Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs from?
Yes. Matanya.
RT
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>Don't look at me, I need all of mine!
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>Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:31:28 -0700
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>> I have a guitar made at the t
Butchers and petshops (though not the bones of Michielle Harton, which s=
hould be regarded as holy relicsl). Bone from butchers is free, but petshop=
s have done all of the foul-smelling boiling etc. for you... whic= h is
probably worth the added cost.
Peter
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> Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs from?
At the risk of sounding facetious - a butcher? It stinks enough when you
file a bone nut, so God knows what it would be like on a lathe.
I've just tried to find out what Sacconi says about pegs in his book on
Stradivari
from?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: "Garry Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'lute list'"
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: Pegs, revisited - ebony
> Michael (and others).
>
>
> I
e bones of
>Michielle Harton to make your pegs.
Not to bark too much more, but bone makes a great peg!
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: "Garry Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'lute list'"
Sent: Thursday, M
Michael (and others).
I only provided the information because I had the Lundberg book handy and a few
minutes to type the information from it into an e-mail message. Interpret that
information any way you like.
Disregard it if it suits you.
While I felt that the quote I provided might be rele
OK, I've read all the messages in the thread and yet have a confusion. A
confusion about what is desirable. (Note my earlier comment on the
intentionally wearable nylon gear in the speedometer).
Why would a luthier want to have the inevitable wear between peg and peg
holes be either random or in t
Peter,
With David I point out that silica (SiO2) is the oxide of the element
silicon, and add that the silicon chips of Silicon Valley aren't actually
pure silicon (in the late '40s my father, a researcher in solid state
physics at Bell Labs, sent out an internal memo speculating on the
possibilit
icalGuitars.com
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From: "Garry Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: Pegs, revisited - ebony
> He did not reach that conclusion.
>
> He states that ebony wasn't used on
> Certain hardwoods, especially some species of oak, contain fairly high c=
> oncentrations of crystalline silica (not silicon, nothing to do with =
> computer chip wafer fabrication!). Higher concentrations can be hazar= dous
> to health in dust, and very hard on plane blades. I think
only s= ome
ebony, certainly not most, also has this problem, but I don't know wher= e
in the world high-silica ebony comes from.
Peter
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From: "Michael Thames"
To: "'lute list'" , "Ga= rry Bryan"
Subject:
e for pegs because they'd
wear out quickly and you'd have to fit another set.
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Thames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:38 PM
> To: 'lute list'; Garry Bryan
> Subject: Re: Pegs, revisit
t simply be that hundreds of years of tuning wore them out?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: "Garry Bryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'lute list'"
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Pegs, revisi
>From Robert Lundberg's "Historical Lute Construction":
"The first thing one notices is that historical pegs are not made of ebony!
It is widely known today that ebony is a terrible wood for pegs. The wood
contains so much silicon that the peg holes are soon worn out and a new set of
pegs must be
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