: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Peg box bent: was: Pegs, revisited - ebony
This is explanation is a good start but it is incomplete because
it did not name the fundamental principle behind the design.
The main term is mechanical advantage. I suppose
if you wanted to analyze the force
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
- Original Message -
From: Dr. Marion Ceruti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]; timothy motz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Peg box bent: was: Pegs, revisited - ebony
, March 14, 2005 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Peg box bent: was: Pegs, revisited - ebony
The tension holding the nut in place is convenient because it
allows a quick change of different nuts without having to bother
about glue
I makes no difference about the angle. a swan neck nut stays in place
Somehow in the raucous banter on the thread my original question got lost,
except for Tony as quoted below.
As Jon said, the modern choice of the harder material for the disposable
bit
does seem odd. It also seems odd that the efforts made at the time being
directed towards lightness in the
in or out for tuning.
Perhaps the harder woods stand up better to the torsional stress from
twisting the pegs.
Those would be my guesses.
Tim
Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:36:50 -0500
Jon,
In addition to reducing the mechanical moment (I haven't used that
phrase since high school physics class), the angled peg head makes it
easier for the peg head to bear the tension of the strings. If the
peg head was straight out, as in a guitar, there would be tremendous
pull from the
Peter,
With David I point out that silica (SiO2) is the oxide of the element
silicon, and add that the silicon chips of Silicon Valley aren't actually
pure silicon (in the late '40s my father, a researcher in solid state
physics at Bell Labs, sent out an internal memo speculating on the
OK, I've read all the messages in the thread and yet have a confusion. A
confusion about what is desirable. (Note my earlier comment on the
intentionally wearable nylon gear in the speedometer).
Why would a luthier want to have the inevitable wear between peg and peg
holes be either random or in
Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs from?
At the risk of sounding facetious - a butcher? It stinks enough when you
file a bone nut, so God knows what it would be like on a lathe.
I've just tried to find out what Sacconi says about pegs in his book on
Butchers and petshops (though not the bones of Michielle Harton, which s=
hould be regarded as holy relicsl). Bone from butchers is free, but petshop=
s have done all of the foul-smelling boiling etc. for you... whic= h is
probably worth the added cost.
Peter
- Original
Don't look at me, I need all of mine!
Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:31:28 -0700
I have a guitar made at the turn of the 19th century with
original bone
pegs
Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs from?
Yes. Matanya.
RT
To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
]
To: timothy motz [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony
Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs from?
Yes. Matanya.
RT
To get on or off this list see
bitch ;-)
- Original Message -
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: timothy motz [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony
Anyone out there know a source for bone
, revisited - ebony
Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs
from?
Yes. Matanya.
RT
To enshrine him in a lute. Maybe he can donate something to make strings
from too.
No doubt. He has plenty of nerve.
RT
To get on or off this list see list information at
http
From Robert Lundberg's Historical Lute Construction:
The first thing one notices is that historical pegs are not made of ebony!
It is widely known today that ebony is a terrible wood for pegs. The wood
contains so much silicon that the peg holes are soon worn out and a new set of
pegs must be
?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
- Original Message -
From: Garry Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'lute list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Pegs, revisited - ebony
From Robert Lundberg's Historical Lute Construction:
The first thing
for pegs because they'd
wear out quickly and you'd have to fit another set.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Thames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:38 PM
To: 'lute list'; Garry Bryan
Subject: Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony
.From Robert Lundberg's Historical Lute
only s= ome
ebony, certainly not most, also has this problem, but I don't know wher= e
in the world high-silica ebony comes from.
Peter
- Original Message -
From: Michael Thames
To: 'lute list' , Ga= rry Bryan
Subject: Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20
Certain hardwoods, especially some species of oak, contain fairly high c=
oncentrations of crystalline silica (not silicon, nothing to do with =
computer chip wafer fabrication!). Higher concentrations can be hazar= dous
to health in dust, and very hard on plane blades. I think
- Original Message -
From: Garry Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'lute list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: Pegs, revisited - ebony
He did not reach that conclusion.
He states that ebony wasn't used on historical lutes.
The second and third sentences
21 matches
Mail list logo
