Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-10 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Well, I think it depends on speed (I don't like slow Johnson trebles) and of course the font/layout of the tablature. However, a scale or most motions on one course has more visual clarity (up-down movement) in notation than in tablature. I guess it's a similar problem like that of reading

Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread RichardTomBeck
Dear Howard and Vance, I was very interested to read your comments regarding the relative virtues of staff notation and tablature. Being a beginner, I find tablature means I have little or no idea which notes I am playing, whether I am supposed to play a fifth, an octave or indeed what

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Miles Dempster
Yes Tom. But why do guitarists have to read from a single staff (transposed an octave)? I find that it really obscures the voice leading? Miles Dempster On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 06:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Howard and Vance, I was very interested to read your comments

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Christopher Schaub
The problem with standard notation is its lack of specificity. You can standard notate a Cmaj triad and play it many different places on the neck. Now voice leading would give you some clues, but not always, especially if you have many strings like the lute -- the bass could be an open string or

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Daniel Shoskes
I have found adjusting to tablature very simple and if anything it helps my sight reading. I am actually to the point where I can figure out the tune of a simple piece just by looking at it. There is one disadvantage which I am not sure if I should blame on the notation system however. I find

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi Tom! I started the same way - not knowing which note I'm actually playing but in the meantime I see the tones behind tabulature letters and it doesn't make too much difference if I'm playing staff notation or tabulature. A while ago we had the topic of scales on the lute and here is one

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Thomas Schall
Actually most guitarists use fingerings and play fingerings which would be something very similar to playing from tablature. Thomas Am Die, 2003-12-09 um 13.25 schrieb Christopher Schaub: The problem with standard notation is its lack of specificity. You can standard notate a Cmaj triad and

RE: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Fred Bone
, December 09, 2003 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Staff Notation/Tablature Well, tab is easy to sight read mechanically, since it tells you exactly what to do (except for how long to hold each note), but as Tom says, it's far inferior to staff notation as a musical description

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Stewart McCoy
, on the other hand, smile, knowing that reading tablature is an absolute doddle. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Staff Notation/Tablature Dear Howard and Vance, I was very

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 04:25 AM 12/9/2003 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with standard notation is its lack of specificity. You can standard notate a Cmaj triad and play it many different places on the neck. Now voice leading would give you some clues, but not always, especially if you have many strings

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Matanya Ophee
At 06:02 PM 12/9/2003 +, Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even Campion could hardly have written all his guitar music using seven different scordature in staff notation. We do not know that. If the music was written in tablature, it could very well have been written in pitch notation as

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Tony Chalkley
Chapeau! - Original Message - From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Staff Notation/Tablature Dear Tom, The purpose of notation is to enable the performer to reproduce music. To that extent

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Thomas Schall
- From: Monica Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lutenet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Staff Notation/Tablature As usual Stewart has said it all and said it succinctly. I would only add a couple of comments. When

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Stewart, thanks for your detailed posting. However I'd like to add that playing fast single line divisions by for example John Johnson bears (at least for me) a specific kind of difficulty: beyond a certain speed it is quite hard to get an impression of the melody movement in the

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Me again, this makes more sense: (snip) So I think this rhythmically quite simple single line music is not necessarily written best in tab, just like your example of 15th century music with complex rhythm. But then - the time needed to rewrite it in staff notation is better spent on

Re: Staff Notation/Tablature

2003-12-09 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi Stephan! I wonder! In baroque lute music this may often happen but in renaissance music? Usually the melodic movement is (at least for me) rather good supported by the tabulature ... Thomas Am Die, 2003-12-09 um 22.38 schrieb Stephan Olbertz: Dear Stewart, thanks for your detailed