Vihuela/guitar

2004-12-12 Thread Stewart McCoy
age - From: "doc rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: Re: Vihuela/guitar > Hi Everyone. > > Can we go back to this topic for

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-12 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
kind. Perhaps I can get a copy of one somehow, some day. Thanks Roger - Original Message - From: "Antonio Corona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Antonio Corona
we do not know the extent of the "repairs". I too found it a facinating instrument. With best wishes, Antonio --- "Roger E. Blumberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all; > > Just an update. To the greater viola-vihuela-guitar > story (to viola da g

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: "Roger E. Blumberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "LUTE-LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 4:14 AM Subject: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain > Hi all; > > Just an update.

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
- Original Message - From: "bill kilpatrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Roger E. Blumberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "LUTE-LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 4:40 AM Subject: Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela gui

Re: Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread bill kilpatrick
n update. To the greater viola-vihuela-guitar > story (to viola da gamba > ulitmately), I've just add this instrument: > > http://www.thecipher.com/Viola_sine_arculo_OLDEST-01.jpg > Plucked vihuela/viola (Vihuela de penola or Viola > sine arculo), 1300s. > Salamanca, Spain, O

Oldest known viola bodied vihuela guitar, 1300's, Spain

2004-12-11 Thread Roger E. Blumberg
Hi all; Just an update. To the greater viola-vihuela-guitar story (to viola da gamba ulitmately), I've just add this instrument: http://www.thecipher.com/Viola_sine_arculo_OLDEST-01.jpg Plucked vihuela/viola (Vihuela de penola or Viola sine arculo), 1300s. Salamanca, Spain, Old Cath

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-11-12 Thread doc rossi
Hi Everyone. Can we go back to this topic for a minute? I realized that I had a translation of Bermudo done by Dawn Astrid Espinosa (JLSA XXVIII-XXIX, 1995-6), so I took at look and I couldn't find any reference to the c e g c' e' g' tuning; there is a five-course guitar in a similar tuning (G

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
One could say he molted a few times in the process. RT > Erm, Scots or Scottish please - we are not all drunk ;-) > > Yes, I am absolutely sure, because Antonio gives the tuning c,e,g,c',e',g' in the article I mentioned. I am sure he would have corrected me, if I had got it wrong.

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-20 Thread Tony Chalkley
Erm, Scots or Scottish please - we are not all drunk ;-) - Original Message - From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 3:00 PM

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-20 Thread Roman Turovsky
>> Yes, I am absolutely sure, because Antonio gives the tuning >> c,e,g,c',e',g' in the article I mentioned. I am sure he would have >> corrected me, if I had got it wrong. It certainly is an unusual >> tuning, and I would like to know more about its use in the 16th >> century, assuming there is m

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-20 Thread s.walsh
> > From: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2004/09/20 Mon AM 10:45:24 GMT > To: "Lute Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Vihuela/guitar > > Dear Stuart, > > Many thanks for the interesting website about the Portuguese guita

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-20 Thread s.walsh
>, > > Yes, I am absolutely sure, because Antonio gives the tuning > c,e,g,c',e',g' in the article I mentioned. I am sure he would have > corrected me, if I had got it wrong. It certainly is an unusual > tuning, and I would like to know more about its use in the 16th > century, assuming there is

Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-20 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Stuart, Many thanks for the interesting website about the Portuguese guitar. I notice that the tuning they give for this instrument does not involve the interval of a 3rd. Neither did the continental tuning of the cittern (a, g, d', e'). Best wishes, Stewart. > Some fado sites have an acc

Re: vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> Are you sure about this c,e,g,c,e,g tuning in Bermudo? >>> >>> I certainly haven't read the original but, years ago, when I was researching >>> into the guittar, I never found that tuning (nor transposed) before the 18th >>> century. I remember finding references (e.g. in Bermudo) to tunings c

Re: Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread Roman Turovsky
r 3rd. > > Best wishes, > > Stewart. > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Monica Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: vihuela/guit

Vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread Stewart McCoy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:28 PM Subject: Re: vihuela/guitar > > > > > > > Most intriguing is one of Bermudo's guitar tunings: c, e, g, c', e', > > > g'; he writes, "This is a go

Re: Re: vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread s.walsh
re > > Stewart, > > > > Are you sure about this c,e,g,c,e,g tuning in Bermudo? > > > > I certainly haven't read the original but, years ago, when I was researching > > into the guittar, I never found that tuning (nor transposed) before the 18th > > century. I remember finding references (e.g. i

Re: vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread Roman Turovsky
>>> Most intriguing is one of Bermudo's guitar tunings: c, e, g, c', e', >>> g'; he writes, "This is a good tuning for a _guitarra grande_ strung >>> with 6 courses, like a Vihuela, or for a _discante_." (translated >>> from Bermudo, f. ciiiv). This tuning is, of course, the same as the >>> tuning

Re: vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread s.walsh
> > > Most intriguing is one of Bermudo's guitar tunings: c, e, g, c', e', > > g'; he writes, "This is a good tuning for a _guitarra grande_ strung > > with 6 courses, like a Vihuela, or for a _discante_." (translated > > from Bermudo, f. ciiiv). This tuning is, of course, the same as the > > tu

vihuela/guitar

2004-09-19 Thread Monica Hall
> Most intriguing is one of Bermudo's guitar tunings: c, e, g, c', e', > g'; he writes, "This is a good tuning for a _guitarra grande_ strung > with 6 courses, like a Vihuela, or for a _discante_." (translated > from Bermudo, f. ciiiv). This tuning is, of course, the same as the > tuning of the wi