[LUTE] Flamenco spagnoletta

Hello, friends! We had a funny experience. Made "Spagnoletta" by Caroso more spanish. We know, Caroso is an Italian, it's just like joke.)) [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wklbm8GJlVA&feature=plcp What do you think about it? Here is other videos from the concert. I am inter

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Just a quick note: It should be rememmbered that Flamenco is the music of the Gypsy/Romani people who emigrated from Northern India around the year 1000 AD and were first documented in Spain in the 15th century. There are some interesting parallels between Flamenco and Indian raga music

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very much recommended! Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 13.12.2004 22:06:00 An:"Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Chalkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lute list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kopie: Thema: Re: flamenco > ..And I think t

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st a quick note: It should be rememmbered that Flamenco is the music of the Gypsy/Romani people who emigrated from Northern India around the year 1000 AD and were first documented in Spain in the 15th century. There are some interesting parallels between Flamenco and Indian raga music: much

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The only European language that qualifies to be a mixture of Arabic with any other is Maltese (Arabic & Sicilian) RT >> The Spanish language is understood to be essentially a mixture of >> Latin and Arabic. > FYI, Spanish is considered a mixture of Latin, Celtiberian and Carthaginian > with a goo

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Try to compare any Baroque example of Fandango with anything flamenco piece titled so. RT > I think that as a folk medium it predates the baroque era, __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~

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> The Spanish language is understood to be essentially a mixture of > Latin and Arabic. FYI, Spanish is considered a mixture of Latin, Celtiberian and Carthaginian with a goodly number (up to 4000 I think) of Semitic borrowings, Carthaginian and mostly Mozarabic, so "essentially" is not quite appr

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All it takes is a few minutes listening to traditional Arabic singers, oud players and percussionists to hear where flamenco comes from. The performers call themselves Gypsy (short for Egyptian). The Spanish language is understood to be essentially a mixture of Latin and Arabic. From a

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about the entire variation genre. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban that > is similar to a raga or a flamenco piece. > Something to think about... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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"Roman Turovsky" schrieb: > > ..And I think the driving ostinato of "O Death, Rock me Asleepe" is a > > clear precursor to the gloom-and-doom death metal of the early 1970s as > > pioneered by Black Sabbath. > > E > http://www.sabbatum.com/sound?sess=f4b25a12a907666261a7

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> ..And I think the driving ostinato of "O Death, Rock me Asleepe" is a > clear precursor to the gloom-and-doom death metal of the early 1970s as > pioneered by Black Sabbath. > E http://www.sabbatum.com/sound?sess=f4b25a12a907666261a78bfae1b60920 RT > > > At 03:16 PM 12/13/2004, Tony Chalk

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At 04:06 PM 12/13/2004, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > ..And I think the driving ostinato of "O Death, Rock me Asleepe" is a > > clear precursor to the gloom-and-doom death metal of the early 1970s as > > pioneered by Black Sabbath. > > E >http://www.sabbatum.com/sound?sess=f4b25a12a907666261a78bfae1b60

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..And I think the driving ostinato of "O Death, Rock me Asleepe" is a clear precursor to the gloom-and-doom death metal of the early 1970s as pioneered by Black Sabbath. E At 03:16 PM 12/13/2004, Tony Chalkley wrote: >I must say that I find "The Queene's Treble" a bit rockabilly... To get o

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I must say that I find "The Queene's Treble" a bit rockabilly... TC - Original Message - From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lute list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: Re: flamenco

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al to some degree, and is always potentially re-workable, but I embrace categorization as a useful tool just the same. What does the term flamenco mean if we begin to brand all proto-flamenco influences as flamenco? To not include some obscure renaissance-era Sephardic song in my conceptualizat

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here's an interesting site: http://www.andalucia.org/flamenco/index.php?idioma=eng it mentions several regions in connection with its origins. i wonder if there are any documented examples of this "folk medium" that carl speaks of (rhythms, melodies, possible arabic sources)?

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Many subcultures claim they are as old as the hills, but in reality they are quite recent. A few that come to mind is the blues (only ca.100+ years), flamenco (200), raw (as opposed to pickled) fish sushi/sashimi (200), Ukrainian bandura (200-), neo-Celtic harp (50) etc. RT __ Roman M

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A statement that flamenco's roots are ancient certainly is defensible, but the concept of flamenco as a form--as a defined conceptual nugget--is decidedly post-baroque. I-IV-V progressions are as old as music itself, but you'd be hard-pressed to convince me that blues or rockabilly i

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trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is flamenco baroque? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/european/TheZincali-AnAccou ntoftheGypsiesofSpain/toc.html RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv >> http://www.andalucia.org/flamenco/index.php?idioma=eng >> >> another site had a "flamenco - flemi

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Google up "origins of flamenco". There are some sober assessments out there. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > From: bill kilpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:52:03 + (GMT) > To: Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PR

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It is customary among sober-minded people to place Flamenco firmly in the post-Napoleonic era. It took it awhile to get noticed too RT > nah ... > > i fancy this one: > > http://www.andalucia.org/flamenco/index.php?idioma=eng > > another site had a "flamenco - f

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nah ... i fancy this one: http://www.andalucia.org/flamenco/index.php?idioma=eng another site had a "flamenco - flemish" connection but i think the information on the above site is accurate. just curious - bill --- Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was fir

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It was first mentioned in the early 1800's. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > is flamenco baroque? > > = > "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don > Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "H

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is flamenco baroque? = "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" by Fra Joseph of San Buenaventura. go to: http://www.charango.cl/pagi

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No. RT > is flamenco baroque? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html