Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-09-16 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007, Joerg Delker wrote: > Hi Joseph, > > thanks for your reply. > > Although I didn't expect much from your hint, I was really surprised to > find out, that the firewall *was* cause for this! get lvs to work first, then add the firewall rules. > I was unaware of the fact, that L

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-09-16 Thread Joerg Delker
Hi Joseph, thanks for your reply. Although I didn't expect much from your hint, I was really surprised to find out, that the firewall *was* cause for this! I was unaware of the fact, that LVS traffic obviously is not subject to iptables connection tracking and thus doesn't match any ESTABLISHED

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-09-14 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Joerg Delker wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I just found this thread in the archives describing my problem. > So let me tune in so we hopefully can find that bummer. > > Symptoms: > I'm also suffering from very slow connections via the VIPs in contrast to > accessing the real servers

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-09-14 Thread Joerg Delker
Hi Folks, I just found this thread in the archives describing my problem. So let me tune in so we hopefully can find that bummer. Symptoms: I'm also suffering from very slow connections via the VIPs in contrast to accessing the real servers directly. A wget fetch from a particular web takes

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-07 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Dan Baughman wrote: > Does lvs appropriately forward the 'fragmentation needed' icmp requests back > to the servers? do you mean to the client? No. Linux seems to be the main problem here (it's in the HOWTO). LVS doesn't fix it. You have to handle it by setting the mss valu

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-07 Thread Dan Baughman
Does lvs appropriately forward the 'fragmentation needed' icmp requests back to the servers? Unfortunately I bypassed the load balancer for a quick solution, in lue of trying more fixes. On 8/3/07, Joseph Mack NA3T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Graeme Fowler wrote: > > > Try

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Graeme Fowler wrote: > Try tuning your MTU down on both the W2K3 servers *and* the director so > they're all 400 (you'll have to look up how to do this for your distro, > but it usually isn't hard). it's in the LVS-Tun section of the HOWTO Joe -- Joseph Mack NA3T EME(B,D), FM

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Dan Baughman
Ok I'll need some time to work through some of these suggestions and report results. I'll keep ya posted. thx for the suggsetions. On 8/3/07, Graeme Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:16 -0600, Dan Baughman wrote: > > One, physically separate load balancer. (ubuntu 6.06

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Graeme Fowler
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 15:16 -0600, Dan Baughman wrote: > One, physically separate load balancer. (ubuntu 6.06). Two physically > separate real servers. This is all brand spanking new, high end intel > hardware. Running DR ( with the loopback adapater on the 2k3 servers). Aha... a thought comes t

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Dan Baughman wrote: > The more hops out the further away the client, the worse the problem? > the more the issue presents itself. I am trying to by > pass the loadbalancer in the problem case to see if it is even the issue. >>> Just to follow up on this, the packet loss app

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Dan Baughman
One, physically separate load balancer. (ubuntu 6.06). Two physically separate real servers. This is all brand spanking new, high end intel hardware. Running DR ( with the loopback adapater on the 2k3 servers). The real servers are using the same physical interface to respond to the load balance

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Graeme Fowler
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 09:17 -0600, Dan Baughman wrote: > Just to follow up on this, the packet loss appeared to be an unrelated > issue. If I connect directly to a realserver, the page loads fairly fast. > If I connect through the loadbalancer ( and get the same real server) I see > a lot of tcp r

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-03 Thread Dan Baughman
Just to follow up on this, the packet loss appeared to be an unrelated issue. If I connect directly to a realserver, the page loads fairly fast. If I connect through the loadbalancer ( and get the same real server) I see a lot of tcp retranmissions and such (as sniffed from the real server). I can

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-02 Thread Dan Baughman
Well we are getting 1 - 5% packet loss to one of the real servers. We may have a layer 2 issue here, or perhaps something physical I'll let you know what we turn up. Thanks for your time and suggestions. On 8/1/07, Joseph Mack NA3T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Dan Baughman w

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-01 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Dan Baughman wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions so far, here is what the dumps yielded. > > I'm using ethereal to look at a side-by-side comparison of > a healthy conversation and one of the delayed > conversations. The delayed conversation has two tcp > packet types that

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-01 Thread Dan Baughman
I guess it might be a version issue, 'ivsadm -v' yields: ipvsadm v1.24 2003/06/07 (compiled with popt and IPVS v1.2.0) On 8/1/07, Dan Baughman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestions so far, here is what the dumps yielded. > > I'm using ethereal to look at a side-by-side compa

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-08-01 Thread Dan Baughman
Thanks for the suggestions so far, here is what the dumps yielded. I'm using ethereal to look at a side-by-side comparison of a healthy conversation and one of the delayed conversations. The delayed conversation has two tcp packet types that the normal conversation doesn't: 1) A lot

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-07-31 Thread Gerry Reno
Gerry Reno wrote: > Dan Baughman wrote: > >> I am trying to gather a sniffing session from both of my sides of the >> connection now. So far, they have both been comcast users. >> >> On 7/31/07, Joseph Mack NA3T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Dan Baughman wrote

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-07-31 Thread Gerry Reno
Dan Baughman wrote: > I am trying to gather a sniffing session from both of my sides of the > connection now. So far, they have both been comcast users. > > On 7/31/07, Joseph Mack NA3T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Dan Baughman wrote: >> >> >>> There are some users t

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-07-31 Thread Dan Baughman
I am trying to gather a sniffing session from both of my sides of the connection now. So far, they have both been comcast users. On 7/31/07, Joseph Mack NA3T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Dan Baughman wrote: > > > There are some users that when acessing my page through > > th

Re: [lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-07-31 Thread Joseph Mack NA3T
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Dan Baughman wrote: > There are some users that when acessing my page through > the load balancer experience a 45 second load time, but > when going directly to either server takes only ten > seconds. I'm doing one nic, two network type load > balancing. (we have one loadb

[lvs-users] Some users slow loading..

2007-07-31 Thread Dan Baughman
There are some users that when acessing my page through the load balancer experience a 45 second load time, but when going directly to either server takes only ten seconds. I'm doing one nic, two network type load balancing. (we have one loadbalancer and two real servers) Again, accessing either s