Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread PCMan
Historically, XFCE had more manpower and resources. Started as a small project, growing slowly, and finally became a major DE. XFCE even underwent some complete rewrites. The first version of XFCE in 1996 is not written with GTK+ but in XForms library. It's written with their own toolkit, and later

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Axel FILMORE
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:12:13 +0100 Julien Lavergne wrote: The eternal question "How to bring more devs to work on the project", > sorry I don't have the answer :-) Maybe first, we may look at the bug > tracker to see if anyone send patches. See what Elementary OS folks have done in only a few y

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
It may not be about having an integrated desktop or manpower or even comparing with the many features of other desktop environment. Maybe it would be better to have a specific objective and then use that for marketing and for responding to questions. I'd suggest that the objective to be "good

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 11/21/2012 09:09 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit : > You mean using applications from other DE hints some people to use > that other DE instead? And XFCE task manager is much better than LXDE > one too. It seems there are too few people in LXDE project but I'm not > sure if XFCE has a lot of

Re: [Lxde-list] [Pcmanfm-develop] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 11/21/2012 08:31 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit : > May be we should revive it for use with PCManFM? What do you think? Well, I had a quick look at it, it probably needs some work make it work again (new Vala, get ride of waf, maybe udisk2 migration ...). It's maybe an overkill if you just want

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! JM has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 21:44: >For myself, any machine, low with resources or high I use a set of programs >around >Openbox and no desktop manager at all. I did also put this setup to some >people's >machines when the resources are really very low, or are average

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Giuseppe Penone
Hi, I think that integrating the launch and task manager applets into something similar to what windows 7 offers would be of great appeal, I already started to work on it and will probably issue a first version soon. In the first version the launch buttons will just be hidden when there's a task el

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread JM
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:09:27 +0200 "Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: > It seems there are too few people in LXDE project but I'm not > sure if XFCE has a lot of developers. Hi, XFCE is much older than Lxde is, therefore it benefits from many more hours of work on it than Lxde does. I started us

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Julien Lavergne has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 19:12: >Le 11/21/2012 05:14 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit : >> I have an interesting question. It happened somehow that people in >> debian-devel mailing list talks about XFCE as only viable alternative >> based on gtk2 (si

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Julien Lavergne has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 19:18: >Le 11/20/2012 11:39 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit : >> a) where in context menu should be new option? >> b) what the option it should be? 'Format volume'? 'Volume properties'? >> c) what application should serve that op

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 11/20/2012 11:39 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit : > a) where in context menu should be new option? > b) what the option it should be? 'Format volume'? 'Volume properties'? > c) what application should serve that option? > d) how to define that application? > > What do you think about all of tha

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 11/21/2012 05:14 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit : > I have an interesting question. It happened somehow that people in > debian-devel mailing list talks about XFCE as only viable alternative > based on gtk2 (since MATE isn't good enough in some aspects) and never > mention LXDE. Do you have

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Daniele Forsi
2012/11/21 Andrej N. Gritsenko: > after deletion of 8GB files no space was freed. So files were not hidden > but some FAT corruption seemed to be so reformatting was required. in this use case I don't think that the user should even see the word FAT or EXT or whatever and the program should try t

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Kaleb has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 11:18: >There's been something of a push to put LXDE in GTK3. I don't know how far >it's gone. I believe the goal is to have it dual compilable - GTK2 and GTK3. At least most of packages (libfm/pcmanfm, lxpanel, gpicview, lxappearance

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Kaleb
There's been something of a push to put LXDE in GTK3. I don't know how far it's gone. On Wednesday, November 21, 2012, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > I have an interesting question. It happened somehow that people in > debian-devel mailing list talks about XFCE as only viable alt

[Lxde-list] LXDE vs XFCE?

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! I have an interesting question. It happened somehow that people in debian-devel mailing list talks about XFCE as only viable alternative based on gtk2 (since MATE isn't good enough in some aspects) and never mention LXDE. Do you have any opinions why it could be? Is the XFCE many st

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! JM has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 16:03: >On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:14:26 +0200 >"Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: >> The exact problem was - after they've deleted that folder there was >> no files on drive but it still showed card full. Don't know why it was >> but that happen

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread JM
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:14:26 +0200 "Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: > The exact problem was - after they've deleted that folder there was > no files on drive but it still showed card full. Don't know why it was > but that happens sometimes, it's not first time I see that problem. I've > changed '

Re: [Lxde-list] Change to PCManFM's desktop-drawing recently?

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Stephan Sokolow has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 1:43: >I'm on Andrej's PPA and, a couple days ago, my desktop suddenly went >from stretching my background properly to fill both monitors (It's >designed to span two monitors) to repeating it once per monitor. >It's also star

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Joost van der Hoff has written on Wednesday, 21 November, at 13:45: >I may be too late with this message but there might not be a need to >reformat the card. You see, unlike Windows, Linux has a trash bin not just >for the hard drive but it also makes trash bins on external storage. Loo

Re: [Lxde-list] Formatting flash-drive.

2012-11-21 Thread Joost van der Hoff
I may be too late with this message but there might not be a need to reformat the card. You see, unlike Windows, Linux has a trash bin not just for the hard drive but it also makes trash bins on external storage. Look for a hidden folder named .trash-1000 or something like that in the root of your

Re: [Lxde-list] Change to PCManFM's desktop-drawing recently?

2012-11-21 Thread Kaleb
What about your panel? Does it now repeat too? On Wednesday, November 21, 2012, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > I'm on Andrej's PPA and, a couple days ago, my desktop suddenly went > from stretching my background properly to fill both monitors (It's > designed to span two monitors) to repeating it once