Re: [Lxde-list] mplayer video background

2014-11-22 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I've never tried it on a Pi, so there's a chance it may not work, but the way I'd accomplish it on my desktop is with these two commands: pcmanfm --desktop-off mplayer --rootwin --loop=0 -ao null /path/to/movie.mp4 & (File managers like PCManFM generally draw icons by creating a window which f

[Lxde-list] Lubuntu 14.04 automount quirk you might want to be aware of

2014-08-29 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I just ran across an incredibly frustrating quirk in how udisks-based automounting is configured in *buntu distros and Lubuntu 14.04 is affected. Specifically, if PCManFM is running, then udisks will force the options on removable media mounts to the point that you have to remove the USB stick,

Re: [Lxde-list] Removal request

2014-07-28 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I've had similar issues with other mailing lists in the past so, these days, if a mailing list isn't offered via GMane's NNTP bridge or the Google Groups web UI, I refuse to join it. On 14-07-28 08:26 AM, Dean Howell wrote: > I've tried myself to be remove from this list more than once and it ha

Re: [Lxde-list] App usage

2014-05-24 Thread Stephan Sokolow
enko wrote: > Hello! > > Jerome Leclanche has written on Saturday, 24 May, at 19:49: >> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Stephan Sokolow >> wrote: > >>> I have a bad habit of making multiple changes together, then using Git >>> GUI's "s

Re: [Lxde-list] App usage

2014-05-24 Thread Stephan Sokolow
me on exit (as well as any memory statistics offered) so you don't miss any short-lived processes. On 14-05-24 03:05 PM, Mark Constable wrote: > On 25/05/14 03:58, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >> I can't get a meaningful output via your method since many of them >> aren'

Re: [Lxde-list] App usage

2014-05-24 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 14-05-24 02:13 PM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > > Chromium isn't that bad since they switched to aura. It still lives on > top of a gtk shim, but doesn't look as awful anymore. > Kate has a powerful vim mode, though I don't know about vimrc. I've > been trying out lighttable lately (gtk/web), but i

Re: [Lxde-list] App usage

2014-05-24 Thread Stephan Sokolow
In case it helps, here are my apps along with a rationale for why I use them. (I can't get a meaningful output via your method since many of them aren't kept resident and your method doesn't distinguish between long-running processes and resource-heavy ones.) Stuck with: - Basket Note Pads 1.x

Re: [Lxde-list] OpenBox Rounded Corner and Qt-Curve

2014-05-14 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Technically, they are... but using XShape rather than compositing means aliased curves. I know I used themes with rounded corners in the pre-compositing days of KWin 3.x. ...now if only I could find the time to hack up the current Lubuntu windeco to have a significant color difference between

Re: [Lxde-list] [ANN] LXQt 0.7.0 released

2014-05-08 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I think he was asking whether it was hosted on GitHub pages... which it doesn't appear to be. Is there any specific reason for that? Given that the contents of the "lxde.org" repo are static, it'd seem to make sense to let GitHub handle hosting it and use their automatic on-push Jekyll process

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Release plan, tarballs and translation issues.

2014-03-26 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Persona IS available to the public but I wouldn't recommend it yet. It's basically a from-scratch competitor to OpenID+WebFinger that, in addition to keeping your password hidden within your identity provider, keeps your identity provider from knowing which sites you're logging into. Unfortunat

Re: [Lxde-list] Need opinions: strings in the progression window.

2014-01-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 14-01-11 12:41 AM, Henry Gebhardt wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 07:56:58PM -0500, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >> On 14-01-10 09:43 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >>>>> 2) More complex case: >>> >>>&g

Re: [Lxde-list] Need opinions: strings in the progression window.

2014-01-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 14-01-10 09:43 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > That's okay but I want to create as less work for the translators as > possible therefore that word should be appliable for links creation as > well, see below. I'm pretty sure that's not possible. Native English speakers don't use the s

Re: [Lxde-list] Need opinions: strings in the progression window.

2014-01-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 14-01-09 06:04 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Translation revealed that we need to decide right strings in the > progression window and put them there. Those strings are not yet good. > There are three questionable cases, I'll illustrate them below showing > the window i

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: where 'Find Files...' menu option should be?

2013-12-31 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-31 05:18 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Stephan Sokolow has written on Monday, 30 December, at 20:24: >> To be honest, it really sounds like you're sticking to the HIG too rigidly. > >> I think causing menu items to move around unexpected

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable

2013-12-30 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Did you already see my LQDE suggestion? (Lightweight Qt Desktop Environment) If so, what didn't you like about it? On 13-12-30 08:20 PM, gary sheppard wrote: > What about LDQt? Many people would mentally translate that into ---linux > desktop Qt--- which would not be an overly bad thing... ;) > >

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: where 'Find Files...' menu option should be?

2013-12-30 Thread Stephan Sokolow
sible to put off the removal of "Open Current Folder as Root" for one more release? On 13-12-30 01:31 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Sérgio Marques has written on Monday, 30 December, at 17:34: >> 2013/12/30 Stephan Sokolow > >>> Keep it

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: where 'Find Files...' menu option should be?

2013-12-30 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-30 11:29 AM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > In traditional applications, both "File" and "Edit" refer to the current > document I should probably clarify this slightly. Here are the classic "original" menus, in their original order, and with their origina

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: where 'Find Files...' menu option should be?

2013-12-30 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Keep it under Tools. That's the best place for it. In traditional applications, both "File" and "Edit" refer to the current document, which means that, in a file manager, "Edit" is expected to apply to the selected files and as a way to make Ctrl+F "find in current folder only" search discovera

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: A bit of redesign of progress dialog in LibFM.

2013-12-29 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-28 08:29 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > >> I think you can ommit "...is..." > >> This could be "File operation in progress" > > I believe the verb in any correct English sentence is mandatory. An exception is made in cases like status messages in a UI readout when the context makes t

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: A bit of redesign of progress dialog in LibFM.

2013-12-23 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-23 08:29 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Well, if not reusing after the operation was stopped or finished, > user will see what the operation was only in window header (if those > headers were not disabled by user, of course) - all other text in the > window will be abstract. >

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: A bit of redesign of progress dialog in LibFM.

2013-12-23 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-23 07:34 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > Well, the main reason for the wording above is I wish to reuse the > word "Copying" ("Trashing", "Restoring", ...) into template to not create > excess work for translators. So any form that can reuse "Copying" is fine > for me. Since "Cop

Re: [Lxde-list] [Pcmanfm-develop] RFD: A bit of redesign of progress dialog in LibFM.

2013-12-23 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-22 08:06 PM, Piotr Sipika wrote: > Hi Andrej, > >> "Copying file operation was interrupted and some errors were encountered" >> >> Would that look correctly? > I think so. Except that "Copying file operation" isn't correct English. (You want "File-copying operation") The problem is th

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: A bit of redesign of progress dialog in LibFM.

2013-12-22 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I don't really have time to go into detail right now but I can quickly say that you'll want to say "was cancelled" or "has been cancelled" rather than "is cancelled". The only situation I can think of where "is cancelled" would sound natural is "If the file operation is cancelled, what will hap

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: (#3615170) What case sensitivity do you expect from file search?

2013-12-20 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I'd say both should be case-insensitive and there should be an easy-to-access option to make them case-sensitive. My rationale is similar to why Windows and MacOS use case-preserving filesystems rather than case-sensitive ones. In the common case, capitalization is merely aesthetic to the user,

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: (#3615258) How do you expect trashed files to behave?

2013-12-19 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Ugh. How did that last sentence not get sent complete? "Otherwise, you're getting into special-casing move or copy and that makes for an unpredictable experience for the user." On 13-12-19 05:20 PM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > Actually, I think it'd make more sense to a

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: (#3615258) How do you expect trashed files to behave?

2013-12-19 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Actually, I think it'd make more sense to always move. The default behaviour, regardless of device type, is to move within the device or copy between devices. Given how Trash is implemented, saying "whichever behaviour is default" is tricky to define in a way users will find intuitive. A novic

Re: [Lxde-list] RFD: (#3615258) How do you expect trashed files to behave?

2013-12-19 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I think it makes the most sense to a novice user to have the same drag-and-drop behaviours for Trash as any other folder containing files, so "do nothing" is out. It would be frustrating and would be seen as "the developers were too lazy to implement this". I also think that a drag-and-drop sho

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-03 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-03 07:55 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > Well, you have no need to do any global upgrade. Just upgrade the > libfm and pcmanfm anytime you want to refresh it - you can add repo, > upgrate only the pcmanfm and related packages, then remove the repo. I > already told the same to so

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-03 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-03 04:51 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >> Maybe in January, then. I really don't have time to risk the stability >> of the session I use for work right now and, even though it's been a >> couple of years since I switched to Lubuntu and I've done version >> pinning once or twice in APT,

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-02 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-02 07:09 PM, David wrote: > On 3 December 2013 10:27, Stephan Sokolow > wrote: >> On 13-12-01 08:22 PM, David wrote: >> >> In summary, here is the viable subset of your suggestions: >> >> View > Preserve This Folder's Settings >> View

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-02 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-01 02:57 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Stephan Sokolow has written on Sunday, 1 December, at 13:01: >> Assuming we can't come up with something shorter, this would be the most >> intuitive and would only be two characters longer: >>

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-02 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-01 08:22 PM, David wrote: > > Without thinking as analytically as you, I imagined some other ideas > for you to consider. > > Avoid the word "View": > > View > Arrange This Folder > View > Configure This Folder > View > Customise This Folder > View > Preserve This Folder > View > Rearrange

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-01 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-12-01 11:47 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Well, it is not about view mode but also for sorting and show hidden > setting. And it should have emphasis those settings are remembered only > for current folder only if that option is checked, otherwise the common > settings will be appli

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-01 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Ugh. IMPERATIVE sentence. I'm just going to stop until I'm better rested. On 13-12-01 11:22 AM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > 1. The aforementioned problem that people treat standard menu titles as > ill-understood categories rather than nouns in the declarative sentence > they im

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-01 Thread Stephan Sokolow
de" forces the user to jump to their next interpretation: "Maybe my initial impression of what 'View' means in this context is wrong" (Saying "Folder View" rather than "View Here" also helps because it's easier to recognize that "Folder View"

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM news.

2013-12-01 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Sorry for the delayed response. I was busy and distracted and thought this was something I couldn't contribute anything useful to without actually testing git master. (I'm on Lubuntu 12.04 and don't have time to upgrade or set up a build environment right now) For "View > Save for This Folder"

Re: [Lxde-list] Sound management / pulse with Qt

2013-11-25 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I don't but consider this my vote for continued testing on pure ALSA systems. I always rip PulseAudio out because it does nothing that ALSA+dmix doesn't already do for me and, every time I've tried it, I've had at least one new bug to report. (It's just not worth the hassle.) On 13-11-25 11:39

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable

2013-11-25 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-25 10:58 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > For what it's worth, I think if we go for a name we should then use it > everywhere; not have references to LDE, LQDE, LXQt and LXDE-Qt all > over. I also don't think "DE" is a requirement; gnome uses "GNOME", > not GDE. > I think LXQt has a nice ring

Re: [Lxde-list] DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable

2013-11-25 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-25 09:21 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > It misses DE letters. :) > Well, if it's not completely DE then DT could be fine (Desktop Toolkit). > LXQt doesn't tell anything to user what it is really, just funny letters. > LDE looks very good for me but unfortunately it was used, isn't it? I

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable

2013-11-19 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-19 01:10 PM, christ...@surlykke.dk wrote: > Well, it's a fix, yes. But I think it is wrong to hardwire the use of > pcmanfm-qt. LXDE-Qt should be a modular desktop system, meaning if a > user wants to use another file manager, things should still be able to > work. That is best achieved (I

Re: [Lxde-list] DESKTOP_SESSION environment variable

2013-11-19 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Are there any desktops still actively supported which include a PCManFM too old to be storing its file associations in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list? http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec/ If not, I think it'd be better to advocate for patching the LXDE special

Re: [Lxde-list] Qt platform integration plugin

2013-11-16 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Ugh. Embarassing. I forgot to correct "these five things" when I realized that I should subdivide points 4 and 6 for a nice, clear list. On 13-11-16 07:29 AM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > Regardless of my DE, most of my apps are GTK+ 2.x apps (things like > Comix, Geeqie, gVim, a

Re: [Lxde-list] Qt platform integration plugin

2013-11-16 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Regardless of my DE, most of my apps are GTK+ 2.x apps (things like Comix, Geeqie, gVim, and Firefox which have no acceptable replacements) but I definitely like the idea of injecting some decent file dialogs into the few native Qt apps I have (eg. LyX, GoldenDict, etc.). Just give me something

Re: [Lxde-list] What desktop widgets do you use?

2013-11-13 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I just use Conky with an old-fashioned (ugly but very compact) look. https://mediacru.sh/WRRg7R5A_9tw If anyone wants to experiment with it, my rcfile is here: https://github.com/ssokolow/profile/blob/master/home/.conkyrc On 13-11-13 09:32 AM, Jerome Leclanche wrote: > Hi lists > > Id like a qu

Re: [Lxde-list] Proposals about lxsession redesign - Requests for comments

2013-11-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-10 12:47 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Well, it does not in my case, it never crashes. And it is usable as > soon it does not crashes without any autorestart. And I've disabled the > autorestart on my nephew+nieces's machine. It just should never crash, I > just want it to be cra

Re: [Lxde-list] Proposals about lxsession redesign - Requests for comments

2013-11-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-10 10:58 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Well, I don't know who restarts Openbox. I always believed if window > manager crashes then the whole session will crash as well. But you know, > since window manager is a core for all applications, it cannot be started > the same way as som

Re: [Lxde-list] Proposals about lxsession redesign - Requests for comments

2013-11-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-10 05:24 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > In fact, auto-restart might be needed only if some component crashes. > And also in fact, in many cases this does not work at all, because when > that happens, the possibility that conditions for the crash still present > is high so it crashes

Re: [Lxde-list] Lxqt-panel and libraries issues

2013-11-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-10 01:55 AM, PCMan wrote: > Yes, but ubuntu goes their distro-specific way in this area. Many > applications are changed to use appindicator by default in ubuntu. I > have no comment on the thenical details about which one is better. > I just want to make sure the users can have a workin

Re: [Lxde-list] Lxqt-panel and libraries issues

2013-11-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-10 12:08 AM, PCMan wrote: > After these are done, we can develop plugins outside the lxqt-panel > source tree. So other third parties can develop lxqt panel plugins as > well. We can also develop some distro-specific panel plugins, such as > libindicator plugin for ubuntu. Why would you

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-09 08:45 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >> As for "from", you need to refer to where the path is at the moment the >> user is reading the tooltip. That's the main reason you use "in": "from" >> indicates source/origin, not current location. > > Well, I meant it is source for the cha

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-09 07:42 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > Well, due to difference between web browser and file manager the term > "address" isn't relevant but "folder" is so I will set the phrase "Go to > the folder in the location bar" then. Is that correct? Isn't "from" a bit > better than "in"

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I did notice one other difference: The GNOME HIG's definition of title case says to lowercase prepositions with three or fewer letters while the KDE HIG says four or fewer ("less than five"). (so words like "with" and "into" would be capitalized in GNOME but not KDE) On 13-11-09 07:26 AM, Andr

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-09 06:48 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > Well, let go back to starting point. The string in question wasn't > the "location bar" or whatever. The string in question was a tooltip for > the button next to the location bar which refers to it. The tooltip text > is "Open folder ente

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-07 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-07 12:39 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Stephan Sokolow has written on Wednesday, 6 November, at 23:49: >> On 13-11-06 10:01 PM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >>> I see one thing which should be changed and two which should be discussed: > >>

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-07 Thread Stephan Sokolow
In that case, I'd suggest "Drives" instead of "Drives list". As with "Applications", they are "lists" by definition, so it's cleaner and makes more sense to consider the labels as category headings and phrase them appropriately. (In the same way that it's "Documents" rather than "My Documents"

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-06 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-06 10:01 PM, Stephan Sokolow wrote: > I see one thing which should be changed and two which should be discussed: > > First, since they're all titles, they should all be capitalized like > "Home Directory". ("Trash Can" rather than "Trash can

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-06 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-06 09:18 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > But I still want suggestions on that list. Since it was gone while > quoted, I'll repeat myself: > > Show in Places: >Home Directory >Desktop Folder >Applications >Trash can >File system root >"Computer" special fol

Re: [Lxde-list] New pcmanfm strings

2013-11-06 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-11-06 07:19 PM, Sérgio Marques wrote: >> >> Other are self-explanatory but just "Computer" looks a bit ambiguous. I >> may be wrong of course, so any opinions and suggestions would be very >> appreciated. Oh, may be something like "Drives list" is better? In fact, >> that computer:// consis

Re: [Lxde-list] Lxde.org - links to be removed

2013-10-20 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I just noticed that the "more" link on that section of the frontpage leads to a MediaWiki internal error at this URL: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributions Where do I report that? On 13-10-20 10:16 AM, Geoffrey De Belie wrote: > Hi, > > I removed some articles from LXDE Wiki sinc

Re: [Lxde-list] Qt-based Terminal

2013-10-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-10-09 03:23 AM, Petr Vaněk wrote: > - I'm really open to accept patches including patches with quite big > changes. For example the 'yakuake mode' - I accepted it without problems > even I find it quite useless feature (for me of course). I'm glad to hear that. I use a free-floating termin

Re: [Lxde-list] lxpanel new launchtaskbar first version

2013-09-17 Thread Stephan Sokolow
For icons, I do the same thing. However, lxpanel seems to notice and apply changes to .desktop files automatically on my system without a need to restart it. On 13-09-18 12:43 AM, David wrote: > On 15 September 2013 01:41, Henry Gebhardt wrote: > >> BTW, I have been contemplating removing the "

Re: [Lxde-list] lxpanel new launchtaskbar first version

2013-09-14 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I'd advise keeping it unless you want to risk nonsense crash reports on platforms like Ubuntu when people like me advise more novice users to run "killall -SEGV lxpanel" to restart lxpanel when things like the icon cache are stale. - Manually adding an icon and a .desktop often results in a lau

Re: [Lxde-list] Modular version of RazorQt

2013-09-09 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Merging the runner and the panel into a single process makes sense and, if the people who actually maintain things don't see a problem with it, it sounds like an easy way to save ~5mb resident. In fact, that's how LXDE already does it. (Run Dialog = lxpanelctl run) However, I don't see how you

Re: [Lxde-list] ALT-Tab won't work (LXDE in Lubuntu 12.04.2)

2013-09-02 Thread Stephan Sokolow
My first guess is that something else is using XGrabKey() to bind Alt-Tab as a global hotkey and, thus, preventing Openbox from ever receiving the event. I've never bothered to look into how to track that down, but the least fancy way would probably be to alternately Alt-Tab and then kill some

[Lxde-list] Is there a "Parity with GTK+ 2.x LXDE" TODO list for LXDE-Qt anywhere?

2013-08-25 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Out of curiosity, I decided to boot into Razor-Qt rather than LXDE to see what the other half of LXDE-Qt's ancestry was like and I've built quite a laundry list of things that it fails at when launched by someone who's already got a well-configured LXDE desktop. Is there anywhere I could post e

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE-Qt Licensing Policies

2013-08-12 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Keep in mind that there are other viewpoints on licensing. For example, this blog post by Zed Shaw does a great job of explaining why I GPL so many of my end-user applications and scripts when, strictly speaking, I wouldn't otherwise mind releasing them under an MIT license. http://zedshaw.com/

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-12 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-12 12:10 PM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Monday, 2013-08-12, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >> On 13-08-12 07:28 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: >> I was actually referring more to getting adoption outside LXDE. >> Obviously, if it's a requirement for LXDE, it'll get

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE-Qt Licensing Policies

2013-08-12 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-12 01:24 PM, Ryan Bramantya wrote: > > I think there is no need to use tri-license. Based on LGPL licensing > policy, it said that LGPL can be converted to GPL (but not vice versa). > Therefore, by chosing LGPL as license, if someone want to create GPL > software, the just converting it to

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-12 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-12 07:28 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > Right, makes sense. Also eases transition if one option becomes unavailable > (XEmbed not being available on Wayland) or new option arriving. > Speaking of which, have you heard anything about how Wayland plans to offer non-legacy support things li

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-11 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-11 05:01 PM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Sunday, 2013-08-11, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >> >> The latter. libappindicator does do an automatic XEmbed fallback which >> some applications rely on but it locks you into the Unity-like behaviour >> I mentioned before. &

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-11 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-11 12:22 PM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > Sounds to me like the GTK world needing something like KStatusNotifier, which > encapsulates traditional XEmbed icon and D-Bus interface so application > developers don't have to do that all by themselves. > > However, I admit that I don't know anyth

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-11 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-11 06:25 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > I see. > I guess there is very little point in using a wrapper library written for a > different tool stack, basically using an abstraction that can easily be > achieved directly using the tools at hand (qdbusxml2cpp). > > [...] > > Sure, but it is al

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-11 Thread Stephan Sokolow
to-generate a context menu with actions like "Quit" for the right-click. Source: http://api.kde.org/4.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKStatusNotifierItem.html On 13-08-11 06:33 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Sunday, 2013-08-11, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >> On 13-08-10 01:07 P

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-10 09:48 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > > I don't like the "one action" idea at all, I never want configuration > of clipboard manager to be mixed with history so I should search one or > another. Options should be right-clicked and history drop-down should be > left-clicked. The

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-10 01:07 PM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > I am not sure how it does it exactly but it definitely does it. > E.g. left clicking the Amarok icon toggles main window visiblity and Amarok is > using KSystemNotifierItem for its tray integration. > > I did a quick code search and it seems this is

Re: [Lxde-list] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
, 2013-08-10, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >>> Kevin Krammer has written on Saturday, 10 August, at 19:16: >>>> On Saturday, 2013-08-10, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >>>>> Stephan Sokolow has written on Saturday, 10 August, at 11:22: >>>>>> I've go

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] qCheckGMail for razor-qt

2013-08-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-08-10 06:14 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday, 2013-08-09, PCMan wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:11 AM, .. ink .. wrote: > > 4. Any plans to support KDE's kstatusnotifyitem API[2]? Long time ago I suggested to implement appindicator, bu it was Ubuntu-specific and

Re: [Lxde-list] Unify razor and lxde, current progress and plans

2013-07-28 Thread Stephan Sokolow
affected and don't contact you about it." principle.) On 13-07-28 06:17 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Hello! > > Stephan Sokolow has written on Saturday, 27 July, at 22:12: >> ...plus, the fact that SourceForge automatically closes bugs that have >> lain dorman

Re: [Lxde-list] Unify razor and lxde, current progress and plans

2013-07-27 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-07-27 02:21 PM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > better than one of github, but it is still very poor even comparing with > sourceforge one - no milestones, no categories... And more advanced one I can understand your viewpoint but keep in mind that I have a pile of bugs kicking around somewh

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Unify razor and lxde, current progress and plans

2013-07-26 Thread Stephan Sokolow
t to compete with GitHub's huge popularity) Their "Plans" page isn't exactly clear, but that still seems to be the case. You get "5 users" for free and a user is "someone with access to one of your PRIVATE repos". On 13-07-26 10:34 AM, PCMan wrote: > O

Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Unify razor and lxde, current progress and plans

2013-07-26 Thread Stephan Sokolow
It'd make sense for it to be more advanced. As I understand it, it's a simplified frontend to JIRA and I'd be very surprised if they pared something as featureful as JIRA down as far as GitHub Issues. I don't really mind BitBucket too much. It's nicer and more featureful than Google Code, less

Re: [Lxde-list] Unify razor and lxde, current progress and plans

2013-07-26 Thread Stephan Sokolow
de with extreme caution. On 13-07-26 07:10 AM, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday, 2013-07-26, Stephan Sokolow wrote: >> I'm not a developer, but I would like to bring attention to a potential >> point of contention: The choice of a HIG and how strictly to follow it. >> &

Re: [Lxde-list] Unify razor and lxde, current progress and plans

2013-07-26 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I'm not a developer, but I would like to bring attention to a potential point of contention: The choice of a HIG and how strictly to follow it. I went to a lot of trouble to ensure OK buttons on the right-hand side of my dialogs (GNOME/OSX style) rather than Cancel buttons (Windows/KDE style) a

Re: [Lxde-list] Online survey about strength and weakness of file managers

2013-05-15 Thread Stephan Sokolow
As someone with a UI/UX focus, I have to say that survey is a horrible mess. Given how much thought I had to put into just trying to guess how some of your questions could be related to using a file manager, I doubt you'll get much useful information out of it. (And, really, you ask what I use

Re: [Lxde-list] Do you accept donations?

2013-05-11 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Good to know as a temporary workaround, but that's sort of like saying "I found a way to make GNOME more configurable. Remove Nautilus and install Plasma and Dolphin from KDE." Nautilus is very heavy and the whole point of LXDE is to be lightweight. (Not to mention the GNOME guys seem to trim o

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM Qt 0.1.0 released.

2013-05-01 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-04-30 02:32 AM, Дмитрий Антонов wrote: > I am using Windows XP and Explorer and it works very fast and consumes > little resources. > > Well, if you're OK with using an outdated OS that isn't supported by all modern applications, that's different. Why stop there? I happen to know that WinX

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE accessibility

2013-04-28 Thread Stephan Sokolow
If you're not going to help, then saying it that way is just flat-out rude. Obviously, they want to make it fully accessible but it's not as if they're getting paid for this and they have other demands on their time. What you said basically boils down to "I want to set up a business using your

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM Qt 0.1.0 released.

2013-04-28 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Since you also asked this on IgnorantGuru's blog, here's a link to my response there to make sure everyone else here knows what's already been said: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/lxde-and-calculate-snub-gnome-3/#comment-23245 On 13-04-27 07:17 PM, Drole de Zebre wrote: > Hello! > >

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE FORK (was: PCManFM Qt 0.1.0 released.)

2013-04-25 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 13-04-25 11:17 AM, John Spencer wrote: >> >> About C++, I have to say that it support in a native form the object >> oriented programing > > what enable to have the data and the functions related to it together > and also encourage the code reusage. > > 1) putting data and functions togethe

Re: [Lxde-list] PCManFM Qt 0.1.0 released.

2013-04-22 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I have one question in the role of a developer. As someone who's used Qt in C++ recently (as opposed to via PyQt back before PySide was even proposed) and used it for more than the big brother of a Hello World app, how would you say the current offerings (C++ API, Qt Quick, etc.) compare to Val

Re: [Lxde-list] Wanted - a roll up/down button.

2013-04-22 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Do you mean roll up/down as in "windowshade"? Preferences > Openbox Configuration Manager > Appearance Add the letter S to the "Button order" box. (I use windowshading a fair bit, but instead of adding a button, I just went into the Mouse tab and set "Double click on the titlebar: Shades the w

Re: [Lxde-list] A fix for PCManFM 1.1.0 crashes on unmount ?

2013-03-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I'm on Lubuntu, running a 1.0.2 build from andrej's PPA and, if it's crashing, it's infrequent enough that I'm forgetting about it. (Though I don't insert removable media that often either) What I get is "PCManFM closes tabs referencing ejected volumes... even if that means none are left and PC

Re: [Lxde-list] lxde accessibility

2013-02-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
LXDE tries to be loosely-coupled and standards-compliant so, whether or not it provides an application, you should be free to use whichever you prefer. For example, back when I was on Gentoo, I chose to use Audacious Media Player rather than LXmusic... then I discovered that the Lubuntu mainta

Re: [Lxde-list] Some news about lxpanel2

2013-02-10 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Have you considered using a timeout to write changes 5 minutes after last modification in addition to on SIGTERM and SIGHUP? I've found that's usually a good way to deal with unexpected program death without saving too often or explicitly asking the user when to save. On 13-02-10 05:38 AM, PCMa

Re: [Lxde-list] lxpanel new maintainer: Oh no, it's me!

2013-01-14 Thread Stephan Sokolow
I'm very glad to hear that. If hell freezes over and I get my time management firmly under control, maybe I'll try to figure out why neap and Audacious Media Player vanish from the LXPanel systray when LXPanel crashes while others don't and they don't on other panels. On 13-01-15 12:22 AM, Hen

Re: [Lxde-list] Add to pannel

2012-12-27 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 12-12-15 09:16 AM, phi debian wrote: > Hi All, > > I am new to lxde, leaving gnome after many years, I can't stand gnome3. > > I did install a fresh new debian, as server (no desktop) then did a post > install of lxde, and somme goodies like gparted, synaptic, > update-manager-gnome, etc... > >

Re: [Lxde-list] LXDE Components Hang Intermittently

2012-12-13 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Openbox only draws window borders. All three of those symptoms are problems with LXPanel. (Assuming the volume control is a widget and not an XEmbed tray icon. I don't use it myself.) The simplest way would probably be to fake a crash using `killall -SEGV lxpanel` and let the session management

Re: [Lxde-list] to survive $HOME change?

2012-12-01 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Does that include saving paths the user might have entered? I think the easiest spot for errors to crop up would be when you store a path in a config file and don't bother to check if it begins with $HOME and convert it back to a relative reference. On 12-12-01 11:33 AM, PCMan wrote: > If you'r

Re: [Lxde-list] LXPanel2 progress - some updates

2012-11-29 Thread Stephan Sokolow
Because you'd be loading two different implementations of each piece of functionality into memory in a desktop that's meant for old, resource-constrained PCs? On 12-11-29 07:09 AM, Giuseppe Penone wrote: > Hi, > > Ironically, Qt never has this kind of constraint and is becoming more > an

Re: [Lxde-list] lxpanel 0.5.10: Terminal=urxvt doesn't work

2012-11-24 Thread Stephan Sokolow
On 12-11-24 09:17 AM, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: >> Unfortunately, since non-xterm terminals like LXTerminal only accept the >> "all in one argument" approach, we can't all just use URxvt's syntax either. > > False statement. Every terminal (including LXTerminal, yes) accepts > the arguments a

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