Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-20 Thread John Weiss
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 06:08:07PM -0500, Kuba Ober wrote: The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. I must agree. Get rid of the old * TeX-ism; it's certainly too cryptic. However,

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-20 Thread John Weiss
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 06:08:07PM -0500, Kuba Ober wrote: > The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost > doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. I must agree. Get rid of the old "*" TeX-ism; it's certainly too cryptic. However,

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | Personally I'm used to the '*' now... I think of it as a footnote marker | that indicates that it's the unnumbered version of the environment. | Additionally, it makes remembering the keyboard shortcuts pretty easy. So... is Standard

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I would never make it look like that. besides the fact that (Numbered)/(Unnumbered) isn't aligned to the right, how would you make it look? And the (Numbered) (Unnumbered) should certainly _not_ be part of any layout file. (but I understand

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I would never make it look like that. | besides the fact that (Numbered)/(Unnumbered) isn't aligned to the right, | how would you make it look? Probably only have one version, and the possibility

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Probably only have one version, and the possibility to choose if the unnumbered version should be used. Or switch after the numbered one has been applied. So the marker in the drop-down should only tell if the layout exists in both numbered and

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | Personally I'm used to the '*' now... I think of it as a footnote marker > | that indicates that it's the unnumbered version of the environment. > | Additionally, it makes remembering the keyboard shortcuts pretty easy. > > So... is "Standard"

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I would never make it look like that. besides the fact that (Numbered)/(Unnumbered) isn't aligned to the right, how would you make it look? > And the (Numbered) (Unnumbered) should certainly _not_ be part of any > layout file. (but I understand

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > >> I would never make it look like that. > | besides the fact that (Numbered)/(Unnumbered) isn't aligned to the right, | how would you make it look? Probably only have one version, and the

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-03 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Probably only have one version, and the possibility to choose if the > unnumbered version should be used. Or switch after the numbered one > has been applied. So the marker in the drop-down should only tell if > the layout exists in both numbered

Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
I think we should change the layout format to not need separate definitions for numbered/unnumbered layouts, but rather have a flag: Numbered/Unnumbered and default to having both. We'll then automatically generate both versions when reading the .layout in. Also in the layout drop-down box we

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I think we should change the layout format to not need separate definitions for numbered/unnumbered layouts, but rather have a flag: Numbered/Unnumbered and default to having both. We'll then automatically generate both versions when reading the .layout in.

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Kuba Ober
| This would be too verbose. We're not writing in Ada here :) What has our gui visible strings to do with any programming language? I used Ada as an example. I.e. unless the drop down list's contents were meant to be read by mostly by Ada programmers, they would methinks be considered too

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kuba Ober wrote: The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. Have a look at the attached screenshot or try the attached layout-file. Personally I'm used to the '*'

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kuba Ober wrote: The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. | Have a look at the attached screenshot or try the

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kuba Ober wrote: The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. | Have a look at the attached screenshot or try the

Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
I think we should change the layout format to not need separate definitions for numbered/unnumbered layouts, but rather have a "flag": Numbered/Unnumbered and default to having both. We'll then automatically generate both versions when reading the .layout in. Also in the layout drop-down box we

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > I think we should change the layout format to not need separate > definitions for numbered/unnumbered layouts, but rather have a > "flag": Numbered/Unnumbered and default to having both. > > We'll then automatically generate both versions when reading the >

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Kuba Ober
> | This would be too verbose. We're not writing in Ada here :) > > What has our gui visible strings to do with any programming language? I used Ada as an example. I.e. unless the drop down list's contents were meant to be read by mostly by Ada programmers, they would methinks be considered too

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kuba Ober wrote: > The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost > doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. Have a look at the attached screenshot or try the attached layout-file. Personally I'm used to the '*'

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kuba Ober wrote: > >> The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost >> doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. > | Have a look at the attached screenshot or try

Re: Naming of layouts - numbered/unnumbered

2004-01-02 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Kuba Ober wrote: > >> The dropdown box will become cluttered if suddently its width will almost >> doubled due to (Numbered) or (Unnumbered) being appended to header styles. > | Have a look at the attached screenshot or try