RE: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

To: Jürgen Spitzmüller; lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org Subject: RE: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [sp...@lyx.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:07 AM John Tapsell wrote: If you need people to read documentation, the GUI is too complicated. It should be so simple that you

RE: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

To: Jürgen Spitzmüller; lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org Subject: RE: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [sp...@lyx.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:07 AM >John Tapsell wrote: >> If you need people to read documentation, the GUI is too complicated. >>

RE: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [sp...@lyx.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:07 AM John Tapsell wrote: If you need people to read documentation, the GUI is too complicated. It should be so simple that you don't need documentation. Good point. I'm not completely convinced by this argument (although

RE: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [sp...@lyx.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 5:07 AM >John Tapsell wrote: >> If you need people to read documentation, the GUI is too complicated. >> >> It should be so simple that you don't need documentation. >Good point. I'm not completely convinced by this argument

insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

I find that the GUI for adding a bibtex bibliography is not optimized for the most common use: adding your own bibliography. Is it very common to use one of the example bibliographies? I also find that it's unintuitive if you're not used to it and want to add your own .bib. I remember thinking

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

On 1 June 2012 07:56, Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote: I find that the GUI for adding a bibtex bibliography is not optimized for the most common use: adding your own bibliography. Is it very common to use one of the example bibliographies? I also find that it's unintuitive if

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

Scott Kostyshak wrote: I would like to get some opinions on this before I start working on it. Am I alone in thinking the GUI is confusing? Do most people use the example .bibs more than their own .bibs? Or perhaps people commonly store their user .bibs in the path so that what I am calling

RE: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

From: John Tapsell [johnf...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:21 AM On 1 June 2012 07:56, Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote: I find that the GUI for adding a bibtex bibliography is not optimized for the most common use: adding your own bibliography. Is it very common to use

RE: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [sp...@lyx.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:23 AM Scott Kostyshak wrote: I would like to get some opinions on this before I start working on it. Am I alone in thinking the GUI is confusing? Do most people use the example .bibs more than their own .bibs? Or perhaps

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

Scott Kostyshak wrote: Excellent point. I'm not sure where I stand on this but your argument is strong. Something that I think would still be in line with this good practice would be to allow for a personal .bib folder. I would personally prefer to have my custom .bibs listed by themselves and

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Scott Kostyshak skost...@princeton.edu wrote: I would like to get some opinions on this before I start working on it. Am I alone in thinking the GUI is confusing? Definitely not. When I started using LyX, it took me several months to get to the bottom of how to

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

Liviu Andronic wrote: Definitely not. When I started using LyX, it took me several months to get to the bottom of how to use BibTeX bibliography. I even wrote a step-by-step procedure in the LyX Essentials [1] (see Section 12). I do not have any specific ideas GUI-wise, but I do think that it

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

On 1 June 2012 09:40, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote: Liviu Andronic wrote: Definitely not. When I started using LyX, it took me several months to get to the bottom of how to use BibTeX bibliography. I even wrote a step-by-step procedure in the LyX Essentials [1] (see Section 12). I

Re: insert bibtex bibliography GUI proposal

John Tapsell wrote: If you need people to read documentation, the GUI is too complicated. It should be so simple that you don't need documentation. Good point. Jürgen

"insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

I find that the GUI for adding a bibtex bibliography is not optimized for the most common use: adding your own bibliography. Is it very common to use one of the example bibliographies? I also find that it's unintuitive if you're not used to it and want to add your own .bib. I remember thinking

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

On 1 June 2012 07:56, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > I find that the GUI for adding a bibtex bibliography is not optimized for > the most common use: adding your own bibliography. Is it very common to use > one of the example bibliographies? I also find that it's unintuitive if

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

Scott Kostyshak wrote: > I would like to get some opinions on this before I start working on it. Am I > alone in thinking the GUI is confusing? Do most people use the example > .bibs more than their own .bibs? Or perhaps people commonly store their > user .bibs in the path so that what I am

RE: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

From: John Tapsell [johnf...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:21 AM >On 1 June 2012 07:56, Scott Kostyshak wrote: >> I find that the GUI for adding a bibtex bibliography is not optimized for >> the most common use: adding your own bibliography. Is it very common

RE: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

From: Jürgen Spitzmüller [sp...@lyx.org] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 3:23 AM >Scott Kostyshak wrote: >> I would like to get some opinions on this before I start working on it. Am I >> alone in thinking the GUI is confusing? Do most people use the example >> .bibs more than their own .bibs? Or

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

Scott Kostyshak wrote: > Excellent point. I'm not sure where I stand on this but your argument is > strong. Something that I think would still be in line with this good > practice would be to allow for a personal .bib folder. I would personally > prefer to have my custom .bibs listed by themselves

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > I would like to get some opinions on this before I start working on it. Am I > alone in thinking the GUI is confusing? > Definitely not. When I started using LyX, it took me several months to get to the bottom of how

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

Liviu Andronic wrote: > Definitely not. When I started using LyX, it took me several months to > get to the bottom of how to use BibTeX bibliography. I even wrote a > step-by-step procedure in the LyX Essentials [1] (see Section 12). I > do not have any specific ideas GUI-wise, but I do think that

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

On 1 June 2012 09:40, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Liviu Andronic wrote: >> Definitely not. When I started using LyX, it took me several months to >> get to the bottom of how to use BibTeX bibliography. I even wrote a >> step-by-step procedure in the LyX Essentials [1] (see Section

Re: "insert bibtex bibliography" GUI proposal

John Tapsell wrote: > If you need people to read documentation, the GUI is too complicated. > > It should be so simple that you don't need documentation. Good point. Jürgen