Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 1:07 PM Tom Wilson wrote: > If so, it would be easier to just use a USB serial port. The Prolific > and FTDI ports both work with Raspbian; I've used both. > >> >> +1, Agree And if you're buying one, I recommend to buy one with an FTDI chip. -- John.

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread james . zeun
A little younger but still an amazing early 80s device, the Psion Organiser II is an interesting device and a lot of fun to play around with. I have a standard series three, I sent it off and had it refurbished. The hinges are the most common thing to go and the video ribbon cable between the

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Tom Wilson
Some tips on that Are you using Linux on the Pi? If so, it would be easier to just use a USB serial port. The Prolific and FTDI ports both work with Raspbian; I've used both. Otherwise, maybe look at a DTE wired level converter with CTS/RTS like this one:

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Chris Fezzler
Love the Psion 3c I had but the case literally disintegrated.  Had some type of soft plastic that just corroded and fell apart.  On Monday, September 21, 2020, 03:24:59 PM EDT, james.z...@gmail.com wrote: The 5mx is a nice machine, I reviewed and tested several Psion devices. The

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread james . zeun
The 5mx is a nice machine, I reviewed and tested several Psion devices. The company was often said to be the UK version of Apple for their innovative devices, programming language. I still have a soft spot for the series 3. Sent from my iPad > On 21 Sep 2020, at 8:10 pm, Jonathan Yuen

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Jonathan Yuen
Hello, I actually am trying to connect a Psion 5MX with it's 'serial cable' to a raspberry pi, the serial lines on the GPIO thing. The pi is TTL, so I have an adapter to change it to RS-232. The adapter is DCE, but the Psion cable actually terminates as DCE, since it was made to plug into

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Tom Wilson
"Null" means "none" or "zero." So "null modem" means "no modem." This term is an adjective and should be coupled with "cable", "adapter", or some other noun to be of any use. I don't see a need to re-define the term, since "null modem cable" is well established, and we all know exactly what the

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Lee Kelley
I've always thought "null modem" was a misnomer. It probably should have been called a "non modem cable" or simply a cross over cable as mentioned above. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 11:06 RETRO Innovations wrote: > On 9/21/2020 10:59 AM, Jonathan Yuen wrote: > > > > That said, I could only think that

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread RETRO Innovations
On 9/21/2020 10:59 AM, Jonathan Yuen wrote: That said, I could only think that the other wiring should be same as a null modem, but I thought that I should air my thoughts to see what other people think. I'm curious about the use case, but you are correct, the wiring would be the same. 

Re: [M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Alex ...
I suppose anything that takes the place of a modem, but neither modulates nor demodulates would be a null modem. :) On Mon, Sep 21, 2020, 11:59 Jonathan Yuen wrote: > Hello, > > This is really not an M100 thing but I need to connect two pieces of > equipment together that are both wired as DCE.

[M100] definition of null modem

2020-09-21 Thread Jonathan Yuen
Hello, This is really not an M100 thing but I need to connect two pieces of equipment together that are both wired as DCE. I've bought two DB-9 plugs (male) that I'll wire together and I've already tested crossing 2 and 3 (2 goes to 3, 3 goes to 2) and 5 (gnd) is straight across and that