Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-09 Thread Josh Malone
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 2:33 PM RETRO Innovations wrote: > > > I thought Hakko had tweezers as well, though maybe not for all base units. I see them for the FX-888 base. Unfortunately I'm still rocking my decades-old 936 system. Between the upgrade to an FX-888D and adding on the tweezers, I'm loo

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-09 Thread RETRO Innovations
On 3/9/2021 1:29 PM, Josh Malone wrote: Yeah, if I could afford Metcal gear, I'd be having a different conversation. As it is, I'm looking for the best way to do the work I do within my limited hobbyist budget. -Josh I thought Hakko had tweezers as well, though maybe not for all base units. G

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-09 Thread Josh Malone
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 4:35 AM Peter Noeth wrote: > > I use the METCAL "electric tweezers" handle for resistor, ceramic cap, and > MELF/Mini MELF diode removal. Just switch outlets on the Power Unit, and in 5 > seconds it is ready to use. I have also used it to remove SOT transistors and > 8-p

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-09 Thread Peter Noeth
I use the METCAL "electric tweezers" handle for resistor, ceramic cap, and MELF/Mini MELF diode removal. Just switch outlets on the Power Unit, and in 5 seconds it is ready to use. I have also used it to remove SOT transistors and 8-pin SOICs. Regards, Peter > > Changing tips on my Hakko is a

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:21 PM RETRO Innovations wrote: > > I know we're getting far afield of the main topic, but I'm curious as to > rationale for a second soldering station. The Metcal has such cartridge > tips, and I find that I just leave a few different types in the pencil > iron receptacl

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread RETRO Innovations
On 3/8/2021 8:20 AM, Josh Malone wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:48 PM RETRO Innovations wrote: That tip looks amazing. I sadly do not have a Hakko, but I'm almost convinced to buy one just to try out that tip. Can you suggest a not terribly expensive model to select? (I currently have a M

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread Josh Malone
On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 4:03 AM Peter Noeth wrote: > > > Never use ROHS solder. Well, sometimes you need to. And, as I said before, I was quite shocked at the performance of the SRA SAC305 solder I used on my last batch of SNES controller boards. Drag-solder performance, in particular, was as goo

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread Josh Malone
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 11:48 PM RETRO Innovations wrote: > > That tip looks amazing. I sadly do not have a Hakko, but I'm almost > convinced to buy one just to try out that tip. Can you suggest a not > terribly expensive model to select? (I currently have a Metcal MX500, and I > love it, but

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread Jeffrey Birt
5. They have a ¼” shaft so they might fit other irons as well. Jeff Birt From: M100 On Behalf Of Peter Noeth Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 3:03 AM To: Model 100 Discussion Subject: Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder I am not sure the manufacturer, but I

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread Brian K. White
On 3/6/21 9:37 PM, Josh Malone wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:26 PM Stephen Adolph wrote: No I have been using paste stencil and hot air reflow. It is ok but I end up with pins to fix up. Okay, whew :) I first learned to do SMD work when I built my first REX based on your original gerber

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-08 Thread Peter Noeth
occurs. Anything .05" pitch and larger I solder one pin at a time. Of course I use .010" solder to do it, so it's very controlled. Never use ROHS solder. Regards, Peter - > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 19:30:20 -0500 > From: Josh Malone

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-07 Thread RETRO Innovations
On 3/7/2021 9:40 AM, Josh Malone wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:25 AM Brian K. White wrote: That tip is bizzarrely good for everything. It's both wide & flat, and narrow & sharp, whichever you need just by rotating the iron to flip the bevel up vertical or laying flat. You can get in and touch

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-07 Thread Daryl Tester
On 7/3/21 8:02 pm, Brian K. White wrote: Gotta link? Not really, because what I advised was pointedly NOT to take any praticular video as gospel, but instead to just search the term "drag solder" or "drag technique" and watch at least a few, to get a feel for the idea and sperate the essenti

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-07 Thread Josh Malone
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 4:25 AM Brian K. White wrote: > > That tip is bizzarrely good for everything. It's both wide & flat, and > narrow & sharp, whichever you need just by rotating the iron to flip the > bevel up vertical or laying flat. You can get in and touch an individual > soic or qfn leg,

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-07 Thread Brian K. White
On 3/6/21 8:57 PM, Daryl Tester wrote: On 7/3/21 10:14 am, Stephen Adolph wrote: Brian suggested on Facebook to watch a video on drag soldering and am I ever glad I did. Gotta link? Not really, because what I advised was pointedly NOT to take any praticular video as gospel, but instead to

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-07 Thread Brian K. White
On 3/6/21 6:44 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: Brian suggested on Facebook to watch a video on drag soldering and am I ever glad I did. I learned that I have been using the wrong tip to solder with! I went out yesterday and bought a wide flat tip for my iron, and I tried to do drag soldering exactly

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Josh Malone
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 8:26 PM Stephen Adolph wrote: > > No I have been using paste stencil and hot air reflow. It is ok but I end up > with pins to fix up. Okay, whew :) I first learned to do SMD work when I built my first REX based on your original gerbers and firmware. It was super stre

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Stephen Adolph
https://youtu.be/nyele3CIs-U This is the one I watched. And I agree that the right amount of solder to start the wave but not leave bridges... and lots of flux.. On Saturday, March 6, 2021, Daryl Tester < dt-m...@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote: > On 7/3/21 10:14 am, Stephen Adolph wrote: >

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Daryl Tester
On 7/3/21 10:14 am, Stephen Adolph wrote: Brian suggested on Facebook to watch a video on drag soldering and am I ever glad I did. Gotta link? Cheers, --dt

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Stephen Adolph
No I have been using paste stencil and hot air reflow. It is ok but I end up with pins to fix up. Never too old to learn! On Saturday, March 6, 2021, Josh Malone wrote: > Oh wow! Have you been soldering each pin on the REX boards so far? > > I'm a huge fan of the T18-C tips (on my Hakko) > > O

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Josh Malone
(Sorry - premature send) On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 7:26 PM Josh Malone wrote: > > Oh wow! Have you been soldering each pin on the REX boards so far? > > I'm a huge fan of the T18-C tips (on my Hakko) https://hakkousa.com/t18-c3-bevel-tip.html but pretty much every iron has beveled tips like this.

Re: [M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Josh Malone
Oh wow! Have you been soldering each pin on the REX boards so far? I'm a huge fan of the T18-C tips (on my Hakko) On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 6:44 PM Stephen Adolph wrote: > > Brian suggested on Facebook to watch a video on drag soldering and am I ever > glad I did. > I learned that I have been usin

[M100] "wave" solder aka "drag" solder

2021-03-06 Thread Stephen Adolph
Brian suggested on Facebook to watch a video on drag soldering and am I ever glad I did. I learned that I have been using the wrong tip to solder with! I went out yesterday and bought a wide flat tip for my iron, and I tried to do drag soldering exactly like I saw on youtube. Wow what a difference!