Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-06 Thread Josh Gregory
I see, thanks. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi Josh > > Some people, myself included, prefer the Skim interface. Skim has long been > more compatible than Preview with a lot of types of PDF documents and quite a > lot of long-time Mac users just pref

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-06 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi Josh Some people, myself included, prefer the Skim interface. Skim has long been more compatible than Preview with a lot of types of PDF documents and quite a lot of long-time Mac users just prefer to use that application. Kind regards <--- Gordon Smith ---> Telephone: United Kingdom:

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread Bryan Jones
Hi James, Can you provide some details of the problems you are having with Skim? I did a quick run through of a couple PDFs using Skim 1.4.3 on my MBA running OS 10.8.4 and didn't encounter any major issues. Cheers, Bryan >> On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:31 AM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: >>> Since updating

Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
e: Really. Hmm, I wonder why that would be? Well, no hard feelings, it was just a thought. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: "JAMES AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned in a sof

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
Hi John, Thank you for that. I feel really dim for not trying that. Hopefully though the problem with single page view can be fixed, as it can be useful. Take care James On 5 Jun 2013, at 14:50, John Panarese wrote: Just as a guess, try changing your view to continuous. It seems in Preview

Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland
Really. Hmm, I wonder why that would be? Well, no hard feelings, it was just a thought. Smile. Chris. - Original Message - From: "JAMES AUSTIN" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned i

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread John Panarese
Just as a guess, try changing your view to continuous. It seems in Preview that single page is not working as far as VO seems to not see the document. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.

Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
Preview. Plus, it's completely 100% freeware. I'd google it and try it. You all might like it. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned

Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-05 Thread Chris Gilland
al Message - From: "Zachary Kline" To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update? Hi Josh, Yes, the behavior with PDF documents is improved, although it is still not the same as viewing them

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
Thanks Zack, I'll use Preview until such a time that Skim access is restored. Best James On 5 Jun 2013, at 06:43, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi, While I cannot confirm the problems with Skim on 10.8.4, I can suggest that Preview has much improved. I should clarify that it has not yet given us access

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
Skim seems to be able to handle larger PDFs and is more stable. It also works well for presentations. I have to read a great deal for the work that I do and Skim fulfills my requirements better than Preview. However, reading PDFs with the new improvements is a joy. Hopefully, this is a sign of t

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, While I cannot confirm the problems with Skim on 10.8.4, I can suggest that Preview has much improved. I should clarify that it has not yet given us access to all the elements of PDF files, such as tables and forms, but it's reading experience now very closely matches what you would receive

Re: VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread Josh Gregory
No offense, but why would you need that if the compatibility in the native reader has improved? Are there certain types of things that voiceover can still not handle? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:31 AM, JAMES AUSTIN wrote: > Hi all, > > Since updating to 10.8.4, has anyone else n

VoiceOver problems with Skim was Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread JAMES AUSTIN
Hi all, Since updating to 10.8.4, has anyone else noticed that PDFs no longer seem to be readable in Skim? Thanks Take care James <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages

Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread Josh Gregory
Yes, we can only hope that that is the case. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Josh, > Yes, the behavior with PDF documents is improved, although it is still not > the same as viewing them on Windows. Nevertheless, you can get all the text > from them n

Re: Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Josh, Yes, the behavior with PDF documents is improved, although it is still not the same as viewing them on Windows. Nevertheless, you can get all the text from them now without having to go through contortions. I trust that Apple will release more substantial changes in 10.9. Best, Zack. On

Voice over mentioned in a software update?

2013-06-04 Thread Josh Gregory
Hi guys, in the release notes for OS 10.8.4, it states that there is improved compatibility with PDF documents with voice over. I'm quite impressed by this, but I'm wondering if anybody has actually had experience with it, and if this is actually as it states. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone <--